Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[AamesxDavid]

If anything we'll probably see more complaining

You are conflating criticism with whining. Allow me to demonstrate the difference...

Criticism:

X should be fixed.
I don't like Y.
It would be better if Z.

Whining:

OMG this game is still just beta no one will want to pay SE is stupid I'm leaving


The first is constructive and welcomed, even if it is sometimes put in a less-than-ideal manner. The second is pointless, self-entitled nonsense. And that usually comes from people who won't pay. Now, even if you can post while not subscribed to the game.. you'll be even less relevant because you can't play the current version of the game. I don't want someone posting about how they hated the game when they played it months ago, so I hope they're not allowed to post.. or at least show a little flag on their posts, so we can choose who to ignore more easily.

[AlexNiculaie]

Takes one to know one darling.

Umm . .. not really. Not in this case.

[Ayaseth]

You are conflating criticism with whining. Allow me to demonstrate the difference...

Criticism:

X should be fixed.
I don't like Y.
It would be better if Z.

Whining:

OMG this game is still just beta no one will want to pay SE is stupid I'm leaving


The first is constructive and welcomed, even if it is sometimes put in a less-than-ideal manner. The second is pointless, self-entitled nonsense. And that usually comes from people who won't pay. Now, even if you can post while not subscribed to the game.. you'll be even less relevant because you can't play the current version of the game. I don't want someone posting about how they hated the game when they played it months ago, so I hope they're not allowed to post.. or at least show a little flag on their posts, so we can choose who to ignore more easily.

Yea, that is true..and I agree with your final words.

[AamesxDavid]

Actually I do want to play the game. I never said I didn't, and neither did you. So whats with this once again crap?

Oh, come on, you're gonna make me go a few pages back just to quote you? Ugh...

It is my choice not to experience the content until it is actually fixed.

If you're not experiencing the content how are you going to provide feedback? This is the entire crux of every response I've posted here. You say that you don't need to experience the content firsthand to know how it is. Well guess what, don't pay the subscription fee, don't play the game, and you can still read what everyone else thinks of the game, and you'll be doing just what you're doing now. It's no different than what you're allegedly doing now, so shut up about not being able to log on and do nothing.

[Schubalts]

glad we agree then troll.

If anyone's trolling in this thread, it's the idiots doing nothing but posting "don't let the door hit you hurr hurr". The OP is one of few people in this damn thread that is actually making worthwhile posts.

[December]

you got me on a technicality but I believe my point still stands. I can still log on and provide feedback without experienceing highlevel content. I should have specified in my earlier post that I was talking about high level and specific content.

[Exni]

These threads are all ridiculous.. OP is either just cheap or trolling, much like a lot of other complainers around here about P2P. This game was always meant to be P2P.. and if it had launched in the state it currently is in, it never would have been free beyond the initial first month. The whiners have no argument since SE is free to starting charging whenever they want.

Honestly, I think SE will be happy to see some of this population go.. A lot of that crowd are the same people who have barely played the game yet love to post all sorts of "XIV still sucks!!" all across the net. Good riddance, can't wait till they lock you out of this forum at least.

Matter fact.... DEV's I think it's safe to say that the OP can not justify paying 50 cents/day for a game that you've spent 8+ hours/day working on.. feel free to go ahead and lock out that account a little early.. promise I won't say a word!!

[December]

Oh, come on, you're gonna make me go a few pages back just to quote you? Ugh...



If you're not experiencing the content how are you going to provide feedback? This is the entire crux of every response I've posted here. You say that you don't need to experience the content firsthand to know how it is. Well guess what, don't pay the subscription fee, don't play the game, and you can still read what everyone else thinks of the game, and you'll be doing just what you're doing now. It's no different than what you're allegedly doing now, so shut up about not being able to log on and do nothing.

you got me on a technicality but I believe my point still stands. I can still log on and provide feedback without experienceing highlevel content. I should have specified in my earlier post that I was talking about high level and specific content.

[Bigglesworth]

I don't think they have any right to charge us to play a beta.

Huh?

It is their right to charge you and it is your right to choose whether to pay. If you don't pay, then it will be their right to deny you access to content and service they are providing you.

[Wynn]

Yes, as long as you pay their subscription fee.