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  1. #1
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    Bearforce's Avatar
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    Justin Fever
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    it may have come off as childish. I just think that a fail-game deserves to fail. If they want to try and make it up to us as players, and make the game better, I am all for it. I just won't be paying them to fix mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    , but don't come in here and call us names or saying that our choice is stupid
    failed to read what you quote do you?
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    Neorei Dawnbreaker
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    hey thanks for reminding me to cancel my wow account.
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    Sputnik Eorzea
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    lol BYE, you wont be missed
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    OP claims they only log on once in a while for 5 mins to check thing out and 50% of ppl do like him. well if you don't play regular you won't be missed. but incase you think all think like you check out the numbers in this poll

    Pay to Play Subscription - Cast your votes!

    more than double say yes to nay
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    Anty Lion
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    Sargatanas
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    thinking about the roadmap and the fact that maybe in may 2013!!!! this game will be in good shape - better server, good, responsive ui, mailbox, delivery etc. etc., it really is more then a slap in the face to even think about having the community pay for the development.

    So many ppl payed for the rushed, cheap, failed development in the first place by purchasing the game. then getting 200 EUR/dollar from every player til the final ps3 release on top of it? Unbelievable that SE has the nerve to do this. Honestly! Not even Apple would do this to his more then loyal/blind fans (and they are in a much better position).

    Not to mention to have Yoshi post that the game is at like 50% of where it should be not long ago. Something really goes very wrong behind the walls of SE...

    We already have to start over from dated to normal gear, former content is close to useless. Many very basic things are still not working. No F2P game would survive it.

    YOU HAVE THE FANS!!!! Don't F** with them any further.
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    I don't think they have any right to charge us to play a beta. It's been a year and still no search function, no useable LFG system, and no mail. The game is a wasteland outside of chatting linkshells. Now that tons of people are going to quit, the game is going to become even more desolate. Why am I going to -pay- to play a game that's not even really ready?

    I always thought to myself that they would only change when this theoretical 2.0 was released (and on PS3 too)... but to charge us for it one year ahead of time? I understand there are bills to pay, but SE really made a horrible game and deserve to pay the price. I still feel insulted that they even released the game in the first place.

    I only log in to play around, check to see what's changed, and log out, and I'm sure at least 50% of the players are exactly like me (if not more).

    Don't get me wrong, I had a huge smile on my face as I read through the announcement and saw the PDFs about 2.0... but I'm not paying for 1.9, or 1.20.

    Unfortunately, they are probably making the wrong decision on behalf of the players. I already feel insulted -again-. For the entire 2012 I'm going to be pissed at them for not allowing the people who payed 50+ dollars for this garbage continue to see the updates that THEY OWE US first hand. Now I'm going to have to be a forum dweller.

    TLDR: I feel insulted all over again and refuse to pay for beta, a bad beta at that.
    tl;dr: bye bye~!
    ts;dr: bye bye~!
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    Alex Niculaie
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    Balmung
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    it may have come off as childish. I just think that a fail-game deserves to fail. If they want to try and make it up to us as players, and make the game better, I am all for it. I just won't be paying them to fix mistakes.
    ::Shrug:: Well, that would be why you won't change minds. Telling people you think something is fail, when they obviously don't isn't going to convince anyone of anything. As for paying to fix mistakes, you understand that is exactly what a monthly pay to play subscription means, right? You pay so they can add new content, and continue adjusting the game world; periodically they will add additional features and areas to expand upon the game. MMO's aren't released in a finished state, just in a basic enough standing that players can begin. FFXIV has reached that state.

    You can argue that you don't like what the game offers, and that's a respectable opinion. However, that monthly fee is every MMO's means of fixing problems, adding content and in general evolving over time.
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    2.0 hit the shelfs and 10 mins later a million troll's come on the forum to say its not worth the money.

    just thought i would share the visions in my crystal ball
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    December's Avatar
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    Lich
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    It would've been more convincing if SE came out and said..

    "Hey, we think now the game is good enough to charge you for it". But they don't! They basically say that we are funding their development process.
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by December View Post
    "Hey, we think now the game is good enough to charge you for it". But they don't! They basically say that we are funding their development process.
    Which is exactly what happens with every MMORPG out there. The main purpose of monthly fees in every MMORPG is to fund further development and generate profits.
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