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    Aerilon Asiel
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    Even with Auto Demolition on Existing Housing Supply is NOT Sufficient

    Well even on Leviathan, we saw several houses come to market that where quickly swooped up by re-sellers and appeared on reddit or in shouts/PF. For a medium population server, I feel personally that this is a prime example of how this exemplifies the need for additional wards on top of the upcoming new zone. It would be great to get 15 wards per city-state including the new location.

    More houses please Yoshi!
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    Well, duh. They built a large suburbia that made terrible use of their limited space. So, while they will probably increase plots available do to having newer housing areas: It's unlikely that the majority of it will not be apartments and improvements to said apartments like windows, fan placement, and a terrace/balcony that could make use of outdoor furniture or gardening and door placement customization. If not: just to make them prettier and more desirable.
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    The owner or fc member has to enter the house to reset the timer. Unless they logged in and entered it within the 45 days it would have been demolished, so someone obviously popped in just long enough to keep it. Also you might want to edit out any names from those pictures. There's only 216 mansions per world and a lot of people want them. There's not enough houses for everyone and there's nowhere near enough mansions.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 11-14-2016 at 05:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasmina View Post
    I will only leave an example of a person who clearly no longer plays and still has his house intact
    Adding to the above, XIVDB's last active is the last time that site sees you do anything. As in gain exp, unlock an achievement, etc. They have no idea when you actually login, only what's on your public lodestone page so it's more of a guideline than actual fact.

    If you login to just to go into a house, they won't see that hence the last active date is wrong.

    And you probably should remove the persons name from the post because it's (sort of?) naming and shaming which is very against forum rules and is bannable...

    I do understand what your argument is though, you want SE to change it so you need to do more than login and walk inside, but there's already complaints from home owners that having an active subscription should be enough and having to go inside the house is too much etc.
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    There's also the argument that the 45 days is a bit short for someone that might need to take a break (deployed, new baby, etc). A part of me hopes that the new housing area is instanced so that people that can't get a traditional ward house can at least have fun decorating and gardening. I don't want an instanced house but it sure beats the alternative of NO house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    Well, duh. They built a large suburbia that made terrible use of their limited space. So, while they will probably increase plots available do to having newer housing areas: It's unlikely that the majority of it will not be apartments and improvements to said apartments like windows, fan placement, and a terrace/balcony that could make use of outdoor furniture or gardening and door placement customization. If not: just to make them prettier and more desirable.
    If they can't create enough space why don't they try to make apartments something closer to an instanced house? That way it wouldn't be total garbage.
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post

    I do understand what your argument is though, you want SE to change it so you need to do more than login and walk inside, but there's already complaints from home owners that having an active subscription should be enough and having to go inside the house is too much etc.
    If you're not going to go inside your house why even have it? You should lose it to someone who actually uses it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    If they can't create enough space why don't they try to make apartments something closer to an instanced house? That way it wouldn't be total garbage.


    If you're not going to go inside your house why even have it? You should lose it to someone who actually uses it.
    I agree, the apartments should have been more than FC rooms. On that note, what do you do inside your home once you have it decorated exactly how you want it? Personally I craft in mine so having my choice of music and environment is important. Gardening is done outside, so if you are just doing that there is little reason to go inside once you've finished the décor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    If you're not going to go inside your house why even have it? You should lose it to someone who actually uses it.
    I agree with you, I was just trying to say that there are already people complaining that the current "requirements" are too much, not that I'm one on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    If they can't create enough space why don't they try to make apartments something closer to an instanced house? That way it wouldn't be total garbage.
    It's probably because some of the playerbase asked for apartment housing as better idea, but they couldn't just throw away what they had already made because of blowback from the suburban home-owners that decision would cause. If it just wasn't so ugly to look at.

    Edit: They should seriously try to increase the item limits though.
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    Last edited by MPNZ; 11-15-2016 at 08:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    I do understand what your argument is though, you want SE to change it so you need to do more than login and walk inside, but there's already complaints from home owners that having an active subscription should be enough and having to go inside the house is too much etc.
    It is too much really. Back in the day Yoshi said the housing system would not require active subscriptions or anything like that. he called that an archaic system that belongs in the past or something and that it would not happen in xiv. it's in one his live letters I cant remember which exactly. so the system in place is a direct contradiction to that statement.

    and again. if one of my friends goes on a 3-6 month tour of duty he shouldn't risk losing his house when he comes back

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    At the end of the day the demolishion system shouldn't exist at all. if someones spent millions on there house and then takes a break for whatever reason.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 11-15-2016 at 12:27 PM.

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