Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[myahele]

If they're going to make another race, I hope they go all the way and make each sub clans different from each other like Midlander vs Highlander.

That way we can have the FF12 Viera and have the small and the cute/small Viera.

[Iromi]

Once again, whats wrong with both? No ones stopping them from one thing or the other. Quit making it one or the other. -_-

As I SAID...

No thank you, we already have enough of this in game. IF it means taking away other resources, like, for example..updating character models (or giving us back our 1.x models) or expanding upon current character creation..HELL NO.

IF it means taking away other resources

I don't know how many times I can say it..Yoshida has said time in and time out resources are limited, hence the reason they are most likely never going to release a job in a patch again, it is too much work. AGAIN, anything is possible..they MAY some day have resources to do that, and in the future? Why not..BUT...as it stands, (I've a friend who is senior engineer at blizzard) if wow does not have the resources to release a new race and their dev team is huge, this game absolutely does not have the man power to release a race and give us back our 1.x bodies and/or customization, therefore..I would pick the customization IF I HAD TO.

That is what I basically said. Take it up with Yoshida if you want me to "quit making it one or the other"

Doing this is a lot of work, and asking for that is seems a bit taxing on the dev team. Its clear some people have 0 idea of how implementing stuff works in a MMO and how much work is involved. Oh well.

[Kyuuen]

Once again, whats wrong with both? No ones stopping them from one thing or the other. Quit making it one or the other. -_-

Because game development works; nearly, hand-in-hand with absolutes aka percentages. So you have 100% and out of that you have to find space for story development, character design, armor design, weapon design, environment design, sounds, music, cut scene animation, CG animation, skill design and balancing and animation, etc etc. Each of those takes up a percentage of that 100%, some people want to see better expansion of what's already in game, therefore adding a whole new race would essentially make it one or the other for them.

[Kurogaea]

As I SAID...



I don't know how many times I can say it..Yoshida has said time in and time out resources are limited, hence the reason they are most likely never going to release a job in a patch again, it is too much work. AGAIN, anything is possible..they MAY some day have resources to do that, and in the future? Why not..BUT...as it stands, (I've a friend who is senior engineer at blizzard) if wow does not have the resources to release a new race and their dev team is huge, this game absolutely does not have the man power to release a race and give us back our 1.x bodies and/or customization, therefore..I would pick the customization IF I HAD TO.

That is what I basically said. Take it up with Yoshida if you want me to "quit making it one or the other"

Doing this is a lot of work, and asking for that is seems a bit taxing on the dev team. Its clear some people have 0 idea of how implementing stuff works in a MMO and how much work is involved. Oh well.

First off, this is SE, not Blizzard. You want to talk resources yet they're canning PS3 so they just lost a good 300 pounds worth a weight. There's nothing holding them back, and if there is something, prove it. In fact, if your not a dev of SE, don't even mention it if you don't know whats going on over there.

Second, the guy is a hypocrite. He said he didn't want Viera because they look too similar to Miqote, yet he added the Au'ra which are too similar to Miqo'te, Fem Hyurs and the Elezens. Male Au'ra have the exact model shape as the Elezens with sharper face models and skinned Miqo'te tails and tagged on horns. Fem Au'Ra look like fem Hyur models with skinned miqote bits and horns (honestly the face models could easily be integrated with miqo'te's for how similar they are aside from the tiny scale textures). If he really wanted a different looking race he would've stuck with the concept art or made the Banghaa or Ronso race. Then again he'd probably make both similar to Roe's at this point.

What's happening is a lot of work is being dumbed down for the fact that SE don't have the galls to do certain things, which is why players ask to give more assurance as to what we want. That Halloween event shows they can make dungeons more innovative, they won't do it because they're not sure if players want it, then we have babies whine about not having time for stuff when they're in an MMO where it takes time to do ANYTHING. You want more customization? Fine, we still want Viera, and I've yet to see anyone say we have to choose between either of them, so quit making stuff up.

[Iromi]

Kurogaea , some of your points are true, but the points about development time and such..it shows me you lack knowledge about how long it takes to make something, code, implementation etc, I feel it is pointless to continue to explain things.

I wish we lived in a world where they can implement a lot of the things players are asking for, but truth is that work the devs do is underpaid and over worked..spend some time with some engineers and you'll see what I mean. I wish we could have both, it wouldn't bother me in the least to have Viera and customization but I would be pleasantly surprised if both happened. It's extremely involved. And the fact that you pointed out this is NOT Blizzard further proves my point. rofl Blizzard has 30 times the resources (not exact number, if you want that I'd have to ask my friend Jared) and they still can't do what you are asking..haha

I don't care what company it is, there is no other "magical" ways to implement things. Yoshida already said that SE is very picky on who it hires to develop content and work on stuff..they aren't going to hire anyone willy nilly, and their employment page reflects that lol.

[Zaine_Lionheart]

Nothing has been made up on Iromi's behalf, you really need to consider watching or at least reading the Live letters, and as far as Compairing SE to Blizzard lemme break it down to you, and Im not putting anyone down But its actually common knowledge SE DOES NOT have even close to the amount of resources to Blizzard the ffxiv Dev team is 5-8 people TOPS and Blizzard has 30 - 50 so before putting anyone down you really need to learn what you are talking about first before you go attacking anyone

[Jonditaru]

First off, this is SE, not Blizzard. You want to talk resources yet they're canning PS3 so they just lost a good 300 pounds worth a weight. There's nothing holding them back, and if there is something, prove it. In fact, if your not a dev of SE, don't even mention it if you don't know whats going on over there.

Second, the guy is a hypocrite. He said he didn't want Viera because they look too similar to Miqote, yet he added the Au'ra which are too similar to Miqo'te, Fem Hyurs and the Elezens. Male Au'ra have the exact model shape as the Elezens with sharper face models and skinned Miqo'te tails and tagged on horns. Fem Au'Ra look like fem Hyur models with skinned miqote bits and horns (honestly the face models could easily be integrated with miqo'te's for how similar they are aside from the tiny scale textures). If he really wanted a different looking race he would've stuck with the concept art or made the Banghaa or Ronso race. Then again he'd probably make both similar to Roe's at this point.

What's happening is a lot of work is being dumbed down for the fact that SE don't have the galls to do certain things, which is why players ask to give more assurance as to what we want. That Halloween event shows they can make dungeons more innovative, they won't do it because they're not sure if players want it, then we have babies whine about not having time for stuff when they're in an MMO where it takes time to do ANYTHING. You want more customization? Fine, we still want Viera, and I've yet to see anyone say we have to choose between either of them, so quit making stuff up.

You do realize, that the small details you mention is a lot of work? As similar as they are to Elezen, the differences are still a significant amount of work. It isn't just taking one character model then slapping stickers on their faces. Not to mention, Au'ra are the most customizable race we have so far. Putting that much into the detail of character creation takes a lot of work..

The dev team is small. You have to realize that once a full expansion is released they start work on the next AS WELL AS work on the upcoming patches. It's constant work and the resources are limited. Adding a job or a race to a regular content patch will be a lot of work. Not to mention adding newer types of content. Best example there is changing from 3 dungeons to 2, because of the addition of diadem and potd.

[Senn]

I give support, as long as there are the two tribes, the normal viera, and those midget ones too
And male viera. Please no one gendered race.

Yeah, I would definitely want both male and female viera. I would be a little disappointed if it was female only.

[Ametrine]

Yeah, I would definitely want both male and female viera. I would be a little disappointed if it was female only.

Well, the art they showed has more male concepts, and in FFXII, males are confirmed, they just live away from females and are isolated further. You just never enter a male warren.

[Yasuhiro]

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Please don't compare Burmecians to Kobolds, the picture he posted of Freya doesn't look like this at all.

Did we play the same Final Fantasy IX?