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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    My credit card doesn't yell at me and call me all manner of things just because I made one single mistake.
    My card doesn't look down on be because I'm not a überl33t pwnage killing machine that's done god knows what to others mothers.
    i mean, i know these horror stories exist but i've literally only come across someone like this once (and he was terrible anyway)
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  2. #12
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    I'm not saying everyone act like the "common" gamer elite.
    But I also know alot of people that shun away from specific contents because they have been treated badly and are now afraid to try again.

    Making mistakes in games is not a life threatening situation and alot of people have to take a chill pill sometimes.
    I know people don't wanna waste their time either. But learning through mistakes is one of the best, if not the best way to learn new things. In games and real life.
    But some people wants you to know everything beforehand and never make a mistake.

    Yeah.... I'm kinda ranting atm.



    Anyway, back on topic.

    I support the idea of no more "X" threads. But I also know that'll never happen because people are never satisfied (almost) unless everything fits their taste like a glove.
    Not that it's wrong to voice ones belief. But I understand how others might find it nothing but anoying when several threads about the same topic pops up everywhere.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 11-12-2016 at 10:10 PM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    community rant
    And this is why as a mentor I take it extremely seriously to be a voice of calm, a voice of reason, and a voice of insight. If anything goes wrong, I will calmly explain what went wrong and how to deal with it, and then give everyone a rallying cry of encouragement to say they can do it. But I won't get salty (or at least, I won't show it, sometimes it's like "WHAT!?" but I'm just like "Well flipping out at them won't solve anything even if it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall").
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    And this is why as a mentor I take it extremely seriously to be a voice of calm, a voice of reason, and a voice of insight. If anything goes wrong, I will calmly explain what went wrong and how to deal with it, and then give everyone a rallying cry of encouragement to say they can do it. But I won't get salty (or at least, I won't show it, sometimes it's like "WHAT!?" but I'm just like "Well flipping out at them won't solve anything even if it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall").
    aren't you the guy who was flipping out all over the forums begging to be banned?
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  5. #15
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    My main issue with the cash shop is that things are priced in a way I believe most people are deterred from buying what they would otherwise buy, and I believe enough people are deterred from buying that net profit may be lower than what it could be.

    A good example is the moogle mount, it is really expensive at $30, but it is also really cool. I ain't paying $30 for it though, with $30 I could buy a new game on sale, or multiple new games on sale, or pay for half of a brand new AAA game, or pay for overpriced BS download content (which is relatively much less BS than a $30 mount). Trying to grab $30 from me for what costs pennies to distribute and process payment fees is just greed, and out of principle it turns me off from the cash shop and believe me, I always think back to some especially overpriced things like the moogle mount when looking at new mogstation items and how I should avoid the cash shop out of principle.

    Now if the price was $15 for the moogle mount, I think the price is a bit high but I could definitely see myself buying it to try to support the game. If the price was $10 I'd think it was fair, and I think a lot of people would be buying it because the mount is really nice looking and they wouldn't mind tossing $10 to show their support, and I strongly believe you'd get much more than 3x the number of sales than you'd get with the current price of $30. If the price was $5, a lot of people would be happy, no one would be b*tching about it being in the cash shop, and if other items in the cash shop were also made reasonably priced there'd probably be a lot of people who feel they should buy up a lot of different items in the cash shop and they would enjoy the game more for it and square would make more money for it. I know I probably would buy a lot of things on the cash shop if prices were reasonable, and I'm a really stingy person, but I can appreciate and would support a cash shop of a game that gave people high quality models at a price accessible to everyone even if they wanted to buy every item available on the shop.

    Also, I think a lot of the mogstation models are really great. I really love the artwork and models in this game, and think it's a real shame that I only see a mog mount fly by maybe once every few dozen hours of playing. Pricing things out of range of what most people consider reasonable is making poor use of the great art that have been created.
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    Last edited by MikeWW; 11-12-2016 at 11:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWW View Post
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    The cash shop suggests otherwise, as the current highest selling items are:

    Fantasia
    Chinese Dress
    Y'shtola's outfit

    Previously, Sleipnir, Bennu and I think the Moogle mount were all ranked in their top three. Suffice it to say, people are buying them enough to warrant the current prices. If they weren't, Square wouldn't keep selling stuff that high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    aren't you the guy who was flipping out all over the forums begging to be banned?
    Yes, when it's me that does wrong I am extremely harsh about it. When others do wrong, I am very calm about it. But with me, it was more what I did was actually against ToS in-game that was the reason for me acting the way I did. I am of the belief that if you break rules, you should get heavily punished for it. I've tried reporting myself to the GMs about it too when I've broken ToS. They didn't do a thing about it. (For clarification, this was before I became a mentor. But I'd had a really bad day and for some reason the WAR just refusing to even say a word and say he'd prefer to MT even with me as PLD just rubbed me too far the wrong way and I decided to ragequit. I was always of the belief that even at 50, PLD makes the better MT as WAR provides way more damage.)
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-13-2016 at 12:44 AM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    yea people shouldn't be able to make threads about what they want!

    man people are so selfish that they forgot other people don't want what they want and need to be quiet because they don't matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Yes, when it's me that does wrong I am extremely harsh about it. When others do wrong, I am very calm about it. But with me, it was more what I did was actually against ToS in-game that was the reason for me acting the way I did. I am of the belief that if you break rules, you should get heavily punished for it. I've tried reporting myself to the GMs about it too when I've broken ToS. They didn't do a thing about it. (For clarification, this was before I became a mentor. But I'd had a really bad day and for some reason the WAR just refusing to even say a word and say he'd prefer to MT even with me as PLD just rubbed me too far the wrong way and I decided to ragequit. I was always of the belief that even at 50, PLD makes the better MT as WAR provides way more damage.)
    honestly that's really strange but you do you, my friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    My credit card doesn't yell at me and call me all manner of things just because I made one single mistake.
    My card doesn't look down on be because I'm not an überl33t pwnage killing machine that's done god knows what to others mothers.

    You might see what I mean, the Raid community can be a little too elite for alot of people.
    I beg to differ. If you over charge or even charge it and don't pay it will do a lot worse then call you names. Also if you don't own certain cards you cant do certain stuff (black platinum American express) lol

    Stop using this as an excuse, ignore those types and move on. Get a group of nice people and play together, be more active and social. You know how much I get bullied online and how much crap I deal with...I ignore it and keep going, and always accomplish what I set out to do.

    You can't rely on money to get you things in life this way, try raiding and doing stuff in game with actual friends and people that aren't jerks, it's a lot more enjoyable, I promise.
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