How did Xande defeat the Dragon King, Bahamut?

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Maybe not the right place for this, but does the lore book say with the First Brood on Eorzea wasn't enslaved by the Allagans?

No, only the Meracydian dragons were. As far as we know, Hraesvelgr, Niddhog, and Ratatoskr - along with Vrtra and Azdaja, the other members of the First Brood - were uninvolved with Allagan conquests. Of course, that naturally begs the question as to where they were during the Allagan reign, but it's entirely possible that they simply stayed out of the Empire's way and had no reason to be enslaved as a result.

[Grayve]

No, only the Meracydian dragons were. As far as we know, Hraesvelgr, Niddhog, and Ratatoskr - along with Vrtra and Azdaja, the other members of the First Brood - were uninvolved with Allagan conquests. Of course, that naturally begs the question as to where they were during the Allagan reign, but it's entirely possible that they simply stayed out of the Empire's way and had no reason to be enslaved as a result.

Well, that's my question. The three seem to be rather close to Azys Lla. I was wondering how they avoided the Allagans.

[LineageRazor]

If it's a matter of power vs power that has you concerned, do keep in mind that Midgardsormr, the oldest of all the dragons, was brought low by ONE exploding Garlean battleship. While he wasn't truly killed by it, that may well only be because no one bothered to go in and make sure he was well and truly dead.

I'd say it's safe to say that the Allagans at the height of their reign had more firepower to bring to bear on Bahamut than a single lousy battlecruiser. Even if Bahamut was stronger than his father, the Allagans had a heck of a lot of resources at hand. It's also worth considering that normal Bahamut was probably a lot less powerful than Primal Bahamut was. Becoming a Primal includes a significant boost in power in all the examples we've seen so far - and, in fact, gaining that power was the motivation in becoming a Primal, for some (Iceheart, Thordan). And after that power boost, the Allagans were STILL able to not only defeat, but take alive and entrap Bahamut.

I seriously don't think it was a simple matter of calling back Xande and having him go mano a mano with Bahamut. Xande, while powerful in his own right, did the most damage by leading and directing his people, not by wading into the thick of battle and punching stuff in the face.

[Rocl]

It's a bit unfair to pin Midgardsormr's "defeat" on the Agrius. I'd argue it almost assuredly has to do more with where the Agrius crashed and exploded than the fact it did. Silvertear Lake's seal and the font of all Aether is very important, and being enveloped in the shredding destablising aether should've done more than the ceruleum explosion. After all, the ceruleum explosion alone from the Agrius isn't what turned Mor Dhona into a wasteland--that was the combination of the mass amounts of aether being released and the ceruleum fire. I mean, that single act (Midgardsormr plunging the Agrius into Silvertear Lake) is so monumentally important and did so much damage that writing it off as "one Garlean battleship" is a bit disingenuous.

Which always brings up why did Midgardsormr crash a Garlean vessel into the very thing he was meant to protect? Find out next time in "why the hell don't you talk to me anymore you cute minion dragonsormr?"

[Theodric]

In-game strength of bosses based on game mechanics doesn't necessarily reflect their might in the game's lore. Xande isn't 'just' a boss in ST in the lore, he's much more prominent than that.

It's basically a case of:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...orySegregation

[Morningstar1337]

In-game strength of bosses based on game mechanics doesn't necessarily reflect their might in the game's lore. Xande isn't 'just' a boss in ST in the lore, he's much more prominent than that.

Preety much, I'd say the same applies to the item level system. For examples, the Warrior's initial AF set and the Black Mages AF2 set (Fighter's and Goetia, respectably) are both special clothing marked with Runes. Does that mean that a set of "normal" mail or robes (say Star Velvet Casting and Titanium Fending sets) are really stronger than these clothes?

[LineageRazor]

Which always brings up why did Midgardsormr crash a Garlean vessel into the very thing he was meant to protect? Find out next time in "why the hell don't you talk to me anymore you cute minion dragonsormr?"

It's not as though Middy had a whole lot of control over how the battle went. The Garleans were there above his lake and clearly invading. I'm sure he would have preferred to fight somewhere other than the lake, but I think it's fair to say that the Garleans would not have been particularly cooperative if he'd politely asked them to take the battle elsewhere.

It may also be too much to assume that he actually knew that crashing the Agrius into the lake would have the devastating effect that it did. We don't know a whole lot about the seal he was guarding, and he may well have thought it'd weather the crash just fine - only to discover too late that the Ceruleum explosion was enough to break it (and him).