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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    If something IRL prevents you from rolling, yes: that's why they set it like this. But if you are waiting on purpose then to me it's another story. In the meantime, for example:
    1) People might lose gathering nodes (they'll come back, but they might have something else to do);
    2) The raid group of somebody could get tired of waiting;
    3) Your play-time might be almost finished (so you won't have time to try again, check retainers or do whatever you were planning to do);

    It does affect other players, so I don't think it should something accepted or considered ok.. It isn't even a matter of people checking the stats on aryala as they are doing it even now in weeping city for the minions ...
    And how do you tell if someone is afk because he needs to or if he's afk because he wants to? You can't anyway, so why bother?

    Those 3 reasons could be used to reduce every trial duration to 15 minutes, too.
    I mean, maybe there are people who don't have the time for wipes and need to go raiding in 10 mins, so they can't take the penalty or they have to go to bed soon and still have to do ex roulette to cap for the week, but are stucked with a wiping group in A11.

    Tough luck. Don't queue for Alex if you don't have enough time to kill it and maybe wait another 3 mins.

    If it helps, just imagine theres someone taking a dumb after each kill.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 11-09-2016 at 12:02 AM.

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    Andres_Lonegrief's Avatar
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    Andres Lonegrief
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    And how do you tell if someone is afk because he needs to or if he's afk because he wants to?
    there have been times where the guy who didn't roll was running around, so it was quite clear. Other were spamming emotes or chatting. Also, if it was something from real life it wouldn't happen so often.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    there have been times where the guy who didn't roll was running around, so it was quite clear. Other were spamming emotes or chatting. Also, if it was something from real life it wouldn't happen so often.
    I had an experience in LoTA, after the weekly lot lockout was removed. BLM piece drops, I need on it and wait. Everyone except me, another BLM, and a DRG in our party drop the instance, nothing has been said. So after about 30 seconds I get up to use the restroom. I don't make it back until after the loot has dropped and they have left, and look back at the chat log. Nothing was said for the first 4 minutes, after which the BLM said something like "OMG it's a direct upgrade for me why can't you just let me have it?" (He was wearing a HQ crafted item in the slot, with a higher ilvl, better secondary stats, and materia slots) After it dropped to me he expressed his disgust and left.

    When there are no loot lockouts, it wouldn't be unreasonable to cut that last chest's timer in half or so. But when there's a weekly lockout, just get up and do something else.
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