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  1. #41
    Player
    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    I wouldn't ask for anything to be put on the cash shop but I know what others might
    Instant Gratification so they can wear their flavor of the hour outfits, Loads of money left from their fortnightly NEET bux, They want to "support" the game.
    Any number of reasons really

    I've only bought two things from the Cash Shop, Odin's horse
    (Always forget the spelling and I been following this franchise for years!)
    and Lightning's outfit because I missed out on the event and I love Lightning. Out of those two I only regret the horse because c'mon $15 for a mount that could have been a drop in Urth's Fount? I feel like I just contributed to the problem. Any other cash shop things I own were gifted to me and I always use them in one way or another unlike a lot of people who as mentioned before, use/wear them for an hour and just let them sit in the retainer.

    Cash shop should have just been Fantasia, missable items (Like Lighting Costume) and weddings I guess.
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    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  2. #42
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I'd rather the forums be flooded with threads about politics, religion, and Harambe than sit here and constantly pick through this drivel. This is giving me Super AIDS.
    Then stop engaging the Mimics, yo.
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  3. #43
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    Atoli's Avatar
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I absolutely hate when people ask for stuff to be added to the CS right away (like, if it ends up there, okay, that's SE's desicion and nothing we can do about it, but don't ENCOURAGE it..>.<),
    but I have to admit that I:

    1. apprechiate the chance to pick up seasonal stuff I missed/used up while it stays fair to those who did pay during the month said event was up (adding it for free the next year would be unfair to those who paid their monthly fee a year prior)
    2. felt relieved at least once that something got added to the CS instead of ingame because that way, I could just buy it instead of having to hunt it with an absolutely impossible chance of ever obtaining it.

    Yes. The absolute abundance of RNG in 3.4 has driven me to the point where I jumped with joy when I saw the Korean Dress was added to the CS and not a 0.1% chance reward from a hoard that you maybe get with a lot of luck on a floor of PotD that you need a fixed party and 12 hours of uninterrupted playtime for to even have a single chance at getting said hoard....or a low chance drop from the 7th floor of Aquapolis where you need a lot of luck to even get inside, then a lot of luck to get any door to open, etc. Nope, I could just hop into the Mogstation and I've been having an absolute blast with the dress since then, proving that playing to obtaining something isn't always the fun part, playing with it after you obtained it is just as great and the CS saved me the hassle I have had for nearly 2 months now with a certain poncho and hairstyle >.>
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    Last edited by Atoli; 11-07-2016 at 01:44 PM.

  4. #44
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    While laziness certainly cannot be ruled out, you'll more often see "begging" threads because people recognize money talks. A company has far greater incentive to make the item you covet if they see a profit in doing so. Think about it from your own perspective. Two people ask you to help them move, but only one offered you $100 for your time. Who do you go help?
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  5. #45
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    Emoni Lannis
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    As it stands currently, I personally dislike the fact that the amount of exclusive content you can buy via the cash shop is increasing. If we -absolutely- need to have a cash shop, then I wouldn't mind keeping the seasonal content due to the fact that it was once available ingame for everyone subscribed at the time, and I can also agree with fantasias since we've had the opportunity to receive one from the 1 month veteran rewards. The exclusive mounts/glamour/minions etc. however? I hope not! Opinions may vary, but there's people who take real joy in piecing together unique glamour items along with the interactions that emotes bring to the table. There's some people whose priorities aren't into dungeons and raids, just as there are people whose priorities aren't into spending time creating a glamour outfit. They may feel annoyed when they see they'd have to pay money ranging from half to the full price of a 1month subscription (and for some items, more! Ahem Odin emote) for an outfit that they cannot get anywhere else. This clearly limits the amount of content they can access, because they have fewer options compared to people who have bought the items. The choice to make the special dyes available ingame is a good decision on SE's part, (though they really should've been available ingame from day 1 of implementation) and I hope Yoshida continues to do this for more minions/glamour etc. I also have a feeling that the Alisaie and Thancred minions that were available via wondrous tails could've also been added to the cash shop.. and we'd be none the wiser.

    I believe time and effort should be a more important resource to spend than money when it comes to a subscription based MMO. The reason why I favour subscription models is due to how we all have the same opportunities to enjoy content. There may be some differences in player priorities and skill levels, which in turn relates to what sort of content they'd favour more, but it's undeniable that every subscriber has the same access to content as the next subscriber. This may be an outdated view due to how the market increasingly seems to favour business models such as F2P MMOs with microtransactions, but for the very few subscription based MMOs out there, I hope this ethos lasts until the day that the FF14 servers shutdown.
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  6. #46
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    I think the items should be added both ways, cash shop for people that don't want to play the game or want to grind to get the item, and in game for people that enjoy this kind of option. I don't like the idea of having old seasonal items in the cash shop either, in my own personal opinion I do think, these items should be for people that actually played to that time.

    I know it's not an unique item anymore if 200.000 people have it, however it makes it even less unique if 3 million people have it lol. I don't mind having different packages of dye options in the cash shop, or the wedding packages, even mounts are fine (could make the option that if not obtained via in game, than those are account bound when bought).

    Before people now tell me to get a job, I do have one and I do buy items from the CS quite often, however lately it's getting out of hand and I wish they would take a closer look at it and consider some changes.
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  7. #47
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    SE should add more glamour to the DoH books.
    This way it is obtainable ingame and people can spend money (as gil) on it at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    I think the items should be added both ways, cash shop for people that don't want to play the game or want to grind to get the item, and in game for people that enjoy this kind of option.
    With a high price, so that buying it in the CS is the last option, and not the first option.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-07-2016 at 03:09 PM.

  8. #48
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I WANT MY SQUALL OUTFIT!
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

  9. #49
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    @OP: Because stupidity and laziness is a lethal combination.
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  10. #50
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    To be fair, in at least some cases the tailoring or creation of the glamours you find in the cash shop that aren't old holiday rewards, the earnings made by the cash shop selling the item would have been factored in to their decision to make it accessible in the first place. Otherwise they likely wouldn't have spent the additional money on the creation of such items.

    I think when people beg for stuff on the cash shop it is less about laziness and more about expectation of actually getting it added to the game. SE has a set resource amount to dedicate to the game. To convince the SE executives to allocate more funds to development, that development is going to have to be necessary to either yield a profit or sustain the current one. Case in point is the Chinese dress. That would have made SE a lot of money making it a no brainer. Just adding it in game however probably wouldn't make a huge impact on the actual subscription numbers the game has.

    That's the raw reality of business. That said, it isn't all bad for us. If the cash shop is making a lot of profit it counts as the bottomline earnings for the game giving the dev team a stronger case for more money to be allocated to the game's development and the financing of expensive upgrades such as the EU datacentres or the server architecture upgrades we are apparently getting in 4.0. Money from the Cash shop will be adding to the money going back into the development of the game. Not having a cash shop doesn't mean we would have these things anyway. It would likely mean instead that Yoshi P would have less resources to work with. Subscription money is reliable but it doesn't offer the cash injections that the cash shop offers.
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