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  1. #111
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    One of my new ones is other non-healing classes trying to tell me how to do my job. I got Niddy for daily trial today and made sure Medica II was up as we ran in. The tank was bitching about my pre-casting regens because no one had taken damage yet. News flash, I make sure it's up because there is damage coming very soon and I may be a bit too busy dodging mechanics to get off an AoE heal. Plus you always have people who stand out in Siberia and my regen ticking away on them that I can cast when we were all grouped up might be the thing that saves me from having to waste mp and a swiftcast on raising them.
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  2. #112
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    DaulBan's Avatar
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    Daul Ban
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
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    Now, I'm a petty tank, but when people throw up Regens before a pull I make a concerted effort to shield lob into watch the boss trundle over and squash them.
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    One day I'll be the MT mountain I want to be... But that day is not today. (As of Patch 3.2)

  3. #113
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    Fernosaur's Avatar
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The tank was bitching about my pre-casting regens because no one had taken damage yet.
    I actually hate it when I'm main tanking and a WHM or AST precasts a party-wide regen before pull. In most fights you have at LEAST 5 seconds before anything happens, which is plenty of time for the tank to get a tiny enmity lead and for you to cast a regen which will be unnecessary so early into the fight in most cases. A good tank shouldn't have much problem keeping hate from the healer, but specially in Nidhogg normal you're risking a DF tank not being able to get hate in time and having Nidhogg cleave everyone for a nice wipe, mostly because you couldn't wait for the actual attack to be cast.

    Also, what kind of AoE goes off in Nidhogg NM that would keep you so busy that you couldn't cast Medica II in battle? You also have Assylum and Assize if movement is so important...
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  4. #114
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
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    If you're so worried about not having the time to hard cast Medica II or Aspect Helios then you could always burn your Swiftcast. It's not ideal but it's preferred to precasting a regen, especially since no one should be dying within the first 60 seconds. But like I said, not ideal.
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  5. #115
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    Nic Pay
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    White Mage Lv 80
    My pet peve now is if a tank is gona pull 12 adds please make sure I dont have to escape from one you let get away , Ive tried running back towards the tank didnt work. I shouldnt have to dodge adds while healing if we gona do big pulls u should make sure you have their attention
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  6. #116
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    SMNS/BLMS/WHMS/CO-SCHS that burn virus at the pull. Seriously? THAT'S MINE. D:< I would much rather use it during times of intense damage, when my cohealer needs a little more time to heal or when a tankbuster/ they have lousy cds up/mechanic is happening. Tanks have enough going for them at the start of the pull.
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  7. #117
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    SMNS/BLMS/WHMS/CO-SCHS that burn virus at the pull. Seriously? THAT'S MINE. D:< I would much rather use it during times of intense damage, when my cohealer needs a little more time to heal or when a tankbuster/ they have lousy cds up/mechanic is happening. Tanks have enough going for them at the start of the pull.
    As a WHM I only ever use Virus if:
    1. I'm the only person who has it.(dungeons)
    2. There are no SMN or SCH in the party.(raid)
    3. No one else is using it. If I don't ever see a boss go immune after x minutes then I'll assume no one is using it. Though generally in these situations I still don't like using Virus because I don't want it to become a habit.
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  8. #118
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    As a WHM I only ever use Virus if:
    1. I'm the only person who has it.(dungeons)
    2. There are no SMN or SCH in the party.(raid)
    3. No one else is using it. If I don't ever see a boss go immune after x minutes then I'll assume no one is using it. Though generally in these situations I still don't like using Virus because I don't want it to become a habit.
    I don't mind if someone uses it during the fight so long as it is preventing applicable damage, just don't use it for the pull. ;-;
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  9. #119
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    One of my new ones is other non-healing classes trying to tell me how to do my job. I got Niddy for daily trial today and made sure Medica II was up as we ran in. The tank was bitching about my pre-casting regens because no one had taken damage yet. News flash, I make sure it's up because there is damage coming very soon and I may be a bit too busy dodging mechanics to get off an AoE heal. Plus you always have people who stand out in Siberia and my regen ticking away on them that I can cast when we were all grouped up might be the thing that saves me from having to waste mp and a swiftcast on raising them.
    You what? That's a really bad idea. You're not getting aggro from 1 regen that's easy to overwrite by the tank...you're getting 8x that aggro amount. It's a HORRIBLE idea to precast it before the tank grabs because in 9/10 times, YOU WILL DIE, PERIOD. Not to mention it's Nidhogg, it takes him about...maybe 15+ seconds before he does an AoE? More than enough time to wait for the tank to grab the aggro before a Medica II.
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  10. #120
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    You what? That's a really bad idea. You're not getting aggro from 1 regen that's easy to overwrite by the tank...you're getting 8x that aggro amount. It's a HORRIBLE idea to precast it before the tank grabs because in 9/10 times, YOU WILL DIE, PERIOD. Not to mention it's Nidhogg, it takes him about...maybe 15+ seconds before he does an AoE? More than enough time to wait for the tank to grab the aggro before a Medica II.
    Maybe it's my data center but this is common practice in any trial I've ever participated in. White mages get Stoneskin II up and then Medica II right before we run in and scatter as the tank pulls. I always stay near my tank unless mechanics force me to move away so if I did get aggro it would be easy to peel, but I don't get aggro.
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