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  1. #441
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    joannaluttrell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Paying my sub like everyone, why should i not be abble to wear a super cool dress because im a student that don't ahve a lot of money ?
    Paying a sub should be enough to have access to all the content of the game.
    Sub fees are not, and never have been, for anything more than access to the servers for any sub-based MMO outside FF11 which has been stated many times is an anomaly.
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  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    It's like saying that you're entitled to own the lore book and every single FFXIV related plushie just because you pay your monthly fee.
    Goodies are different from ingame content.
    A monthly fee should make you abble to access all the content as you said, including the supposed "CS designed items".
    Giving advantages to people having more money than you is just a stupid shame.
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  3. #443
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Goodies are different from ingame content.
    A monthly fee should make you abble to access all the content as you said, including the supposed "CS designed items".
    Giving advantages to people having more money than you is just a stupid shame.
    But cs content is a part of the goodies. It wouldn't have even existed otherwise.
    It also doesn't give you any sort of advantage.
    So this kinda sounds like a case of 'if I can't have it, then no one should' ;
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 11-04-2016 at 11:10 PM.

  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    But cs content is a part of the goodies. It wouldn't have even existed otherwise.
    Cash shop should not exist then, because it propose items that people in my situation won't be abble to obtain. "Glamour is the true endgame" people said (still laughing about this argument tho')

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    It also doesn't give you any sort of advantage.
    Provides some good looking/unique items that not everyone can get, but should have access to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    So this kinda sounds like a case of 'if I can't have it, then no one should' ;
    Yeah, people using this argument when us raiders, ask for better rewards for the time we invest into raids. So im just gonna use it too then.
    As i said earlier, we should be abble to get those items in the game (like a horrible grindind idc) and in the CS for the people that will to get it ASAP.
    Actually money is just making a difference when we're supposed to be equals by paying the same sub.
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  5. #445
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    I really do like that idea of providing a high level recipe for crafting or a grind but if people want it right away and are desperate they can pay. That creates balance, imo.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I really do like that idea of providing a high level recipe for crafting or a grind but if people want it right away and are desperate they can pay. That creates balance, imo.
    No Pay to Win shouldn't be an option. Work for it in game like everyone else.
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  7. #447
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No Pay to Win shouldn't be an option. Work for it in game like everyone else.
    I'm not encouraging pay to win in the slightest. These dresses don't give you an advantage over anyone else. All they do is serve as glamour.
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  8. #448
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    SessionZero's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No Pay to Win shouldn't be an option. Work for it in game like everyone else.
    Who said anything about pay to win?
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I really do like that idea of providing a high level recipe for crafting or a grind but if people want it right away and are desperate they can pay. That creates balance, imo.
    That's exactly what i said a few pages earlier on this thread. With a way to obtain those items in the game (like litterally a month of grinding quests or something) and in the CS for people that just want it as soon as it appears on the CS, everyone should be happy.
    Because actually you can't get'em without money even if you play/subbed a lot.
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  10. #450
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I'm not encouraging pay to win in the slightest. These dresses don't give you an advantage over anyone else. All they do is serve as glamour.
    If I misinterpreted your statement I'm sorry but I interpreted this as being about to buy **high level recipe for crafting** to avoid doing/leveling etc in game. I have no problem with glamour gear at the cast shop personally although there should also continue to be a good supply of that gear in game as well.
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