Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ghishlain]

• BRDs don't usually have TP issues from what I've seen (ignoring AOEs) and SS is one of their highest weighted stats. Arrow on a BRD is always a yes.
• BLM doesn't run out of MP technically, and Arrow can help push out an extra Fire 4 or do more spells in general under a single eno. Arrow on BLM is always a yes.

The common factor here is their main resources aren't typically depleted.

vanitaslaughing nailed it dead-on from a DRG perspective, and MNK is similar. NIN I'm not sure about, haven't touched it but I do know they love Spears.

It's funny because just recently on the healer forum there was a huge discussion about how BLMs dislike Arrow IMMENSELY during their AoE rotation because it doesn't allow them enough MP ticks when they go from Flare to Transpose --> Fire III --> Fire II --> Flare because of the cast time reduction.

Overall, I feel its important to note that Arrow is a decent card but there are benefits and detriments to the card, and probably the only card that has a noticeable detriment compared to things like Ewer or Spire. Just to use the common adage that FFXI players like to use - "It's situational" and I get the impression that most people who talked about Arrow in this thread recently understand that.

As a random thought and as a casual DRG player, I feel sticking a Fracture into your rotation if you happen to get a single target arrow gets around your GCD issues but will exasperate your TP issues further due to the 80 TP use. Effectively Arrow gives you one additional GCD assuming you have a 2.4 GCD normally to fit 10 GCDs into the 24s buff duration of HT so Fracture gives you that one GCD filler within those 24s. I will admit I haven't actually gotten further with this and it's just been a thought in my head since around 3.2 and I don't really play DRG anymore and focus more on MCH due to my raid group.

I think I'll just drop the topic from here but I did like reading the discussion on it even if it detracted from the overall theme of this thread. I will just leave one food for thought regarding Arrow - Even if you dislike the Arrow buff, leave it anyway. Play as thought you still have a 2.5s GCD and keep Arrow on so it buffs your TP-free auto attacks.

[Paladinleeds]

It's been a while, but I'm fairly certain that you can't even unlock SCH without the game specifically telling you that, and you can't unlock it without Summon and Summon II either. I was just horror-struck that this was something that actually had to be told to them.

Good point. I brainfarted there. To be a SCH he WILL have got Summon II as well. Perhaps he just didn't read the quest text which tells him that? Not trying to defend him, just trying to work out what the blue blazes caused this to happen.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

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- a catboi Ninja who decided to run off the platform when he noticed a meteor marker above his head ("sorry my controller wouldn't let me stop running")
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I have actually had this happen to me recently.

I believe the main culprit is windows seeing a new device being added/removed and updating the device list, which interrupts my controller's input to the game momentarilly, which means it continues the last input until it resynchs a couple seconds later...

This was exceptionally bad when I had something on the usb that was crapping out on me and kept disconnecting/reconnecting...

[Averax]

I got neverreap in the 60 roulette and i was like "oh great, the bane of my existence", but then i figured that it wouldn't take too long thanks to the ilvl sync, even if we had a newbie. Then the tank pipes up with "i'm a bit rusty, i haven't played in a while" which was fine, but then one of the dps was like "just take it slow and don't pull a lot" and i was sitting there thinking "NOOO YOU FOOOL" as the tank tried to pull individual mobs, and i wanted to scream "JUST PULL EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE".

I understood though and it was fine, but i just...

[Kaurie]

I got neverreap in the 60 roulette and i was like "oh great, the bane of my existence", but then i figured that it wouldn't take too long thanks to the ilvl sync, even if we had a newbie. Then the tank pipes up with "i'm a bit rusty, i haven't played in a while" which was fine, but then one of the dps was like "just take it slow and don't pull a lot" and i was sitting there thinking "NOOO YOU FOOOL" as the tank tried to pull individual mobs, and i wanted to scream "JUST PULL EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE".

I understood though and it was fine, but i just...

Pulling slow didn't even make sense when we were in i170 gear :|

/comfort

[Mysterysword]

just trying to work out what the blue blazes caused this to happen.

Believe me. You're not the only one.

[cammi]

I got neverreap in the 60 roulette and i was like "oh great, the bane of my existence", but then i figured that it wouldn't take too long thanks to the ilvl sync, even if we had a newbie. Then the tank pipes up with "i'm a bit rusty, i haven't played in a while" which was fine, but then one of the dps was like "just take it slow and don't pull a lot" and i was sitting there thinking "NOOO YOU FOOOL" as the tank tried to pull individual mobs, and i wanted to scream "JUST PULL EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE".

I understood though and it was fine, but i just...

Is it really that bad? I would've pulled slow if I haven't tanked in a while. Better safe than sorry.

[bardaboo]

ARF spam for the relic. I'm on AST for shorter waittimes, but man, this dungeon is so. Freaking. Boring. Not even the wet paper DRK in my last run who used exactly one CD during the entire duty was able to make things more thrilling. During a massive pull, somebody in Novice Network asked for the name of a certain item they have seen in my FC's house. I cast Synastry, Aspected Benefic, Aspected Helios, Time Dilatation and Celestial Opposition, then I mentally tabbed out of the duty, opened my recipe book, seached for the item, linked it, had a nice conversation in chat. When I came back to look at my tank, he was at about 60% health. Yawn.

see.. this is annoying as hell. Why not try and "spice up the dungeon" or make it go faster by dpsing? "Waaaaa these dungeons take forever and are boring. Obviously the only solution is to make it take even longer by being lazy"

[SessionZero]

Gonna have to agree with bardaboo's sentiments. It's quite vexing to see a healer spend half a pull standing around waiting for me to drop to a point where a heal is necessary. Even a little extra DPS helps.

[Fluestergras]

see.. this is annoying as hell. Why not try and "spice up the dungeon" or make it go faster by dpsing? "Waaaaa these dungeons take forever and are boring. Obviously the only solution is to make it take even longer by being lazy"

Oh, I'm afraid you got me wrong. I DPS a lot as a healer, sometimes even a bit too much The point I was trying to make was that the dungeon is so boring that you're allowed to do literally nothing. Regarding your opinion that healers who don't have anything to do could as well DPS, I totally agree with you.