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    Considering there's no real rewards for PvP outside of rankings...Yeah it's their right to have their own exclusive stuff just as raiders and people who play in Manderville and get the Fenrir mount. The gear isn't even good in PvP, people use it all for glamour and that's it I say let the PvPers have their mount if I wasn't so focused on clearing A12S, PotD new floors and what not i'd be in PvP right now, it's my plan after to see how far I can get with my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Considering there's no real rewards for PvP outside of rankings...Yeah it's their right to have their own exclusive stuff just as raiders and people who play in Manderville and get the Fenrir mount. The gear isn't even good in PvP, people use it all for glamour and that's it I say let the PvPers have their mount if I wasn't so focused on clearing A12S, PotD new floors and what not i'd be in PvP right now, it's my plan after to see how far I can get with my friends.
    Except raid mounts don't stay exclusive once the content can be overgeared by a large margin. Neither is the Fenrir mount all that exclusive, since you'll eventually be able get it, if you save up enough MGP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Except raid mounts don't stay exclusive once the content can be overgeared by a large margin. Neither is the Fenrir mount all that exclusive, since you'll eventually be able get it, if you save up enough MGP.
    That's a fair point, however I still feel PvPers need some incentive to get to that point it's the same in an MMO PvP standing that they should have exclusive titles/mounts/minions since they are the low % of players that put their time in and with the Hellhound mount there'll be more people.

    It's a way to get people who normally don't PvP a chance to enjoy it and rise up and the veterans a carrot on a stick to keep PvPing just as they did in older versions of WoW with Gladiator titles and mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    Making the rewards buyable with Wolf Marks a few seasons down the road is similar to what non-raiders can do to obtain the PVE mounts, it's a decent solution.

    Relinking my post from the other thread since I'm pretty much just repeating myself here.
    I don't quite agree with this as it should be PvPers who specifically get this reward however, I'm sure SE will reskin the Hellhound mount at some later time I imagine so it's just a matter of time or it'll be on the mog station reskinned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    It's a way to get people who normally don't PvP a chance to enjoy it and rise up and the veterans a carrot on a stick to keep PvPing just as they did in older versions of WoW with Gladiator titles and mounts.
    WoW had a better system in regards to PvP mounts. They were often (if not always, not sure about the WoD PvP seasons) armored versions of PvE mounts. They'd still be unique, but the mount type would still be available to PvE players as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I don't quite agree with this as it should be PvPers who specifically get this reward however, I'm sure SE will reskin the Hellhound mount at some later time I imagine so it's just a matter of time or it'll be on the mog station reskinned.
    I'm not holding my breath, as the ADS mount is still exclusive to PvP (albeit tied to an achievement that can be done at any time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I don't quite agree with this as it should be PvPers who specifically get this reward however, I'm sure SE will reskin the Hellhound mount at some later time I imagine so it's just a matter of time or it'll be on the mog station reskinned.
    I don't know if I'm missing what you're trying to say here, but I never said the mounts shouldn't come from PVP. Wolf Marks are the PVP currency, so with the proposed solution you'd still have to PVP for them.

    I edited that bit in case my wording was weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    That's a fair point, however I still feel PvPers need some incentive to get to that point it's the same in an MMO PvP standing that they should have exclusive titles/mounts/minions since they are the low % of players that put their time in and with the Hellhound mount there'll be more people.

    It's a way to get people who normally don't PvP a chance to enjoy it and rise up
    The thing is on paper yes this mount and minion should encourage more people to pvp except it won't because none of us stand a chance of getting it, only the top pvpers will get it again and again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
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    But again why do PvPers deserve something to be exclusive to only them when Hardcore Raiders put in as much hardwork as they do but lose their exclusives?, for an example A12s currently has an exclusive mount only available to those who clear the content yet when A12s inevitably gets echo added the mount will still be 100% droprate regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    The thing is on paper yes this mount and minion should encourage more people to pvp except it won't because none of us stand a chance of getting it, only the top pvpers will get it again and again
    They played thousands of matches in feast, if frontline and fold count that's A LOT of matches(say ppl with alpha wolf title + feast matches + frontline at least 100k matches or more

    But if you really like pvp rather than just there for the mount
    No one is stopping you from being one of top players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    They played thousands of matches in feast, if frontline and fold count that's A LOT of matches(say ppl with alpha wolf title + feast matches + frontline at least 100k matches or more

    But if you really like pvp rather than just there for the mount
    No one is stopping you from being one of top players
    And Hardcore Raiders put in hundreds of hours of progression in Savage content, should i remind you how long it took most to clear Gordias? and now the Gordias mount can be gotten easily with no effort, one group does not work harder than the other so PvPers don't deserve special treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    They played thousands of matches in feast, if frontline and fold count that's A LOT of matches(say ppl with alpha wolf title + feast matches + frontline at least 100k matches or more

    But if you really like pvp rather than just there for the mount
    No one is stopping you from being one of top players
    You're selfish as hell dude.

    Hardcore raiders put a large amount of time learning mechanics and clearing fights. Yet the raid rewards are obtainable by everyone ?
    Here we go again: why the pvpers (0.5/1% of the community ?) should have some exclusive items ?

    And you don't even have to be good, just an entire list of people win trading for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    You're selfish as hell dude.

    Hardcore raiders put a large amount of time learning mechanics and clearing fights. Yet the raid rewards are obtainable by everyone ?
    Here we go again: why the pvpers (0.5/1% of the community ?) should have some exclusive items ?

    And you don't even have to be good, just an entire list of people win trading for you
    If the item level for get in the raids will be limited forever, you can say this no problem

    Again, in my 900+ matches I never see win trade
    Yes this is not my main character if you wanna ask how a 56smn do that
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