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    Yoshi already admitted this cutscene dungeon thing was terrible game design and that's why there aren't any dungeons like this in Heavensward with long cutscenes. Unfortunately, as it is outdated content, people will just want to speed run it for their tomes and gil. My first time in there was nightmarish. I got called a loser and an idiot for watching the cutscenes. I told them I was new and they are arseholes and I even told them to wait but nothing. Eventually, I was just fighting ultima weapon without even understanding what happened. I agree that it is frustrating but trust me... when you are a veteran, you'll agree it was terrible game design and want to speed run it too. I feel bad when I speed run it but honestly it was a huge mistake to put long cutscenes in a dungeon. After my horrible run.... I just ended up doing the dungeons with some of my close friends and they allowed me to watch the cutscenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Yoshi already admitted this cutscene dungeon .
    I don't even blame the players I get it , but people are acting like it would cost a ton of money to change them into an instance to where you just solo each boss , like every single new player will have to deal with the same stuff. Because any party in duty finder will do the samething , the game is literally full of solo instances and i know each one of them did not cost a million dollars. Its just laziness point blank , they could fix it they just wont and by them not doing so unless u have the perfect friends that wana do it with then ur just out of luck witch makes the whole first part of the story worthless. The journey 1 -50 is meaningless because its all about sixties is what im getting, now that sounds crazy, and if thats the case then with new expansion they will care even less about new players that come to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I clicked on that also still didn't work and I,ve gotten the point that nobody cares. People are clearly missing my point there is 0 reason for this to be a tomes dungeon please give me a reason its like 18 others. Like its not a minor issue viewing the cut scene in a freaking inn room I'm sure has prob never been done in any other game period. That option literally makes the content worthless why did I watch the other cut scenes if I had to skip the last ones. If you would go find a youtube video on said dungeons it happens far to often. So are you saying you dont want new players to enjoy the game , like all content is relevant because I would hope you always have new players joining the game. So the whole this is old content is played out , because its new to someone,no other game does this at least none that I have played to skip those cut scenes is like skipping the whole msq nobody wants an unfinished product.
    What exactly "didn't work"? I was able to view those cutscenes without issue, perhaps your game files are corrupt/bugged?
    You do know you have to click on the arrows in the bottom right of the Unending Journal to select which cutscene you want to watch, right?

    I think you're missing the point here, instead of everyone else. Castrum and Praetorium were designed as a full party dungeons (8 players), remove the tomestones and you remove the incentive for players to run it more than once. Remove the incentive, and you'll be able to enjoy sitting in a queue for hours because not enough players are queueing for it.

    It is a minor issue because there are ways to do these dungeons while still being able to watch the cutscenes and experience the fights. It's called using the party finder, or asking a friend or two to help out. It'll be even easier when they add the cross-server party finder.
    Was it mistake for SE to make these two dungeons cutscene-heavy? Sure, they even agreed to this, and they learned from it. How many complaints have you seen about cutscenes in the Heavensward MSQ dungeons?

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I don't even blame the players I get it , but people are acting like it would cost a ton of money to change them into an instance to where you just solo each boss , like every single new player will have to deal with the same stuff. Because any party in duty finder will do the samething , the game is literally full of solo instances and i know each one of them did not cost a million dollars. Its just laziness point blank , they could fix it they just wont and by them not doing so unless u have the perfect friends that wana do it with then ur just out of luck witch makes the whole first part of the story worthless. The journey 1 -50 is meaningless because its all about sixties is what im getting, now that sounds crazy, and if thats the case then with new expansion they will care even less about new players that come to the game.
    Those solo instances were designed like that right from the start, while Castrum and Praetorium weren't. They'd have to redesign the boss fights to make it soloable, which might be simple for the earlier ones, but how are you gonna change a boss like Ultima?
    If you think the 1-50 MSQ is meaningless just because you ignore the other options to get a good first time run (party finder, unsynced with higher lvl friends), then that's on you.
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    [QUOTE=Nezerius;3921188]What exactly "didn't work"? I was able to view those cutscenes without issue, perhaps your game files are corrupt/bugged?
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    I was saying what other game would even force that option on you , if im playing a game I want to see the ending in the game if its there in real time, also I said make it solo the other stuff leading up to it was solo so why not this. The escape when u break out the group it could of been exactly like that, it was ok in the past when it was fresh to the majority of players well its not anymore so why make new players have to go the extra mile to view something they should be able to see witout any hassle. Serioulsy what other game does that please tell me one. I shouldnt have to go out of my way to ask other people to do the whole meaning of the 1 -50 story line thats crazy talk. If they said it was a mistake then they should of changed it.
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