Planning to convert all dungeons into instanced raids.

[Kiote]

Planning to convert all dungeons into instanced raids. Release of content finder (see below) to help players find groups quickly and easily

Seriously? How many times does this games community have to say..

WE WANT MORE THAN INSTANCED RAIDS

Instance Raids can be fun, sometimes. They are usually good for a run or two. But there has never EVER been an MMO in which Instanced Raids can maintain the level of fun necessarily to entertain a population for more than a few runs. i.e less than a week.

This community has repeatedly shot down this idea in favor of a blend of both instanced and open world content. Toto-Rak and DD should have been enough to open the Devs eyes. First run, people tested them to see how they worked. Second Run People beat them. Third run, people checked for secondary objectives. Fourth run, everyone was bored.

This game is in serious need of Dungeons that are like the beastmen strongholds. Where people can enter and exit freely. No time limits, no entry requirement, and with any luck some complicated and entertaining puzzles to solve.

Why does this development team consistently ignore these calls for more diversity in content? I thought with the implementation of Shposhae they had figured out that people like areas of interest in which they can just go explore. Places with treasure chest and Notorious Monsters that don't require three hours of finding eight people just to take a look.

Now, not only are they talking about making all future dungeons Instance Raids, they are saying they plan to make ALL dungeons Instanced Raids. That means places like Cassiopeia Hollow and Tam-tara Deepcroft, the saving graces of this games lack of exploration, will now be Party restricted and time limited.

For me this is a game breaker. I'm sick of Ridiculous decisions like this being steam rolled over the community. Especially when the community has been vocal against it.

[Jinko]

Nope I want all instance dungeons, great idea Yoshi-p you have my full support.

Next thing I wana see is them have level caps on dungeons.

[Djeserit]

That means places like Cassiopeia Hollow and Tam-tara Deepcroft, the saving graces of this games lack of exploration, will now be Party restricted and time limited.

Except, you know, they'll be completely rebuilding the world at the same time as this happens.... so... exploration will be revived from that as well.

And your worries of it taking a long time to find people to do said instances are unfounded too, as they are implementing a cross-server dungeon finder and a more robust search mechanism.

[Wolfie]

Instances are a billion times more flexible than open world content and I embrace them openly (lol c wut i did thar). There goes your theory.

[deathsite]

Instance Raids can be fun, sometimes. They are usually good for a run or two. But there has never EVER been an MMO in which Instanced Raids can maintain the level of fun necessarily to entertain a population for more than a few runs. i.e less than a week.

And can you name me one boss that is as good or as fun as lich king from wow or Twilight Ascendant Council in a open world because i never seen it done

[Demacia]

I have to agree with the OP. Not EVERY dungeon should be an instanced raid. I shouldn't need to be in a party or under a time limit for ALL dungeon-like content.

There should be a balance of both. I don't need restrictions everywhere.

[Wolfie]

I have to agree with the OP. Not EVERY dungeon should be an instanced raid. I shouldn't need to be in a party or under a time limit for ALL dungeon-like content.

There should be a balance of both. I don't need restrictions everywhere.

I agree with this, but I don't worry about it because I know that this is what will happen. There is not a single (successful) MMO on the market that is 100% instanced content. The dev team is not stupid enough to push for complete instancing of everything, but it's good that they're trying to push it forward.

EDIT: I find it really weird that people are freaking out over this and coming up with some extreme scenarios where everything is instanced, or how any instancing is bad. Most people don't even know the proper definition of instanced content.

[Demacia]

I agree with this, but I don't worry about it because I know that this is what will happen. There is not a single (successful) MMO on the market that is 100% instanced content. The dev team is not stupid enough to push for complete instancing of everything, but it's good that they're trying to push it forward.

EDIT: I find it really weird that people are freaking out over this and coming up with some extreme scenarios where everything is instanced, or how any instancing is bad. Most people don't even know the proper definition of instanced content.

I get where you're coming from, I just want some non-instanced dungeons you know? The raids we have right now are awesome, don't get me wrong, but I do enjoy my FFXI-style dungeons as well.

I'd be happy having both.

[neizero]

OP, please do not use the word "community" when speaking YOUR OWN personal opinion, which I totally do not share. This is a great change for the better and together with the future cross-server content-finder, it will be a great way to level up classes by running instanced dungeons instead of just mindlessly grinding mobs

Please SE give /dislike button for forum!

[Demacia]

OP, please do not use the word "community" when speaking YOUR OWN personal opinion, which I totally do not share. This is a great change for the better and together with the future cross-server content-finder, it will be a great way to level up classes by running instanced dungeons instead of just mindlessly grinding mobs

Please SE give /dislike button for forum!

Missing the point, eh? What does "mindlessly grinding mobs" have to do with anything?