Healing melds..

[Rawrz]

I don't know how good your group is, but oh boy do I need that extra Piety to get some more Raises going... Piety is probably the best stat for healers in progression parties.

We share healing allot in our group, I was just expressing that if you ONLY heal and do NOTHING else, MP requirements are lower. If our WHM is not healing, she's DPSing and I'm covering with Aetherflow stacks/Fairy management to keep her DPSing longer. One Stone III is worth more to DPS than my Energy Drain. This requires a large MP pool to sustain. I value Piety very highly on WHM, behind only Accuracy. So yes I very much agree with you!

I was only referring to healers that do not want to DPS in their groups, by instead focusing on solo healing. It is overall a significant raid wide DPS loss, but its security and increased damage from your off healer.

Also, with raises,my whm knows to let them lay for a moment.
As the off healer, if my swiftcast is up, I'll raise them. If my WHMs mana is low, I'll hardcast the raise so she doesn't burden her MP.

[Taika]

Dervy has posted updated 3.4 stat weights. They include healer DPS stat weights for WHM and SCH now, and his conclusion is "If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy)". Source is here: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights

[technole]

I don't know how good your group is, but oh boy do I need that extra Piety to get some more Raises going... Piety is probably the best stat for healers in progression parties.

Better yet, for real raid progression is to have you, and your DPS meld those VIT Vs on the right side. It's all about playing the more HP = more room for mistakes. Which also means less raises.

When you survive with just a few hundred or less HP to something you should have died to, you already made out like a bandit with that meld cost.

[NefarioCall]

I would meld on my gear, but what's the point in burning so many resources on a gear set that will be outdated in 6 weeks.
I just keep it Vanilla and turn my Materia into gil.

[Rawrz]

Dervy has posted updated 3.4 stat weights. They include healer DPS stat weights for WHM and SCH now, and his conclusion is "If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy)". Source is here: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights

White Mage DPS ONLY:

WD: 9.128
INT: 1.000
DET: 0.159
CRT: 0.182
SS: 0.135
Acc: Cap it
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Scholar DPS ONLY:

WD: 9.128
INT: 1.000
DET: 0.190
CRT: 0.266
SS: 0.316 – 0.366
Acc: Cap it

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

[CUTS3R]

Not after 4.0 there redoing Acc. All the Qq/Bitching over healer haveing to build Acc just to dps will be fited finely

Thank god. I refused to meld acc on my healers because ishouldnt have to, even though i Dps as much as i can in dungeons.

[lulunami]

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

I will just quote what he posted.

Healer Weights are calculated PURELY for full time DPS. For science only; take these weights with a grain of salt. These weights do not take into account Mana consumption, or ANY form of healing/shielding. If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy).

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The reason why the Scholars SS weighting is high, is that roughly 51% of its overall DPS is coming from DoTs. So not only is SS buffing your DPS exponentially due to how it affects your GCD/Casts, but its value is being amplified by also increasing directly affecting 50% of your total PPS via DoTs.

Also, the weighting scholar DPS varies a lot depending on the rotation you use for some reason. It could be an error with my model somewhere handling clipped dots though. Letting your DoTs completely drop, rather than clipping them, boosts the SS weight by 0.5. This is something I’ll be looking into and trying to figure out and does look like it to be a DPS gain, over clipping them.

These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing. I think it is important to not take what Dervy posted out of context, but I am pretty sure that is going to happen anyway.

[Taika]

These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing.

Read again. He specifically says "If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy)." In other words, despite pure DPS weights showing for example SpS having higher weight than Crit for SCH, he still recommends prioritising Crit if the healer not only does DPS but also heals and shields. And this recommendation does not only apply to SCH.

[Chessala]

The crap dervy posted can really burn in hell. If I want to only DPS, I play a DPS class and that's the end of it. I like to DPS when the group allows it no matter the content but what ultimately makes you a good healer is not having the perfect stats.

If you can't assess situations, don't have the ability to know when to precast or generally don't care about keeping your party alive - you have the wrong profession.

I main whm and while I play other healers for fun, I don't touch them for raids/extremes. Especially because of the high mana consumption and enbding up solo healing more often than not, I always make sure to meld Piety where I can. Having 100 points more healing doesn't help me if I don't have the mana to cast it.

My meld strategy would me: PIE>SS>CRIT>DET

I don't care about ACC since any DPS I put in is an extra and will not be counted as my main priority.

[Taika]

The crap dervy posted can really burn in hell.

It's unbelievable how some healers on these forums react to someone actually posting tested facts. It's like they have their own personal healer stat religion and pointing out how earth just doesn't seem all that flat goes right to their feelings. And this seems to apply only to healers - I can't even imagine a DD crying and screaming against someone posting this kind of data to them.

Yes, these stat weights posted by Dervy are tested for DPS, which is clearly announced in the post. This testing done by Av En has been done on healing: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/54f2hu/whm_and_diurnal_ast_healing_formulas_and_more.

They both recommend crit as the main secondary stat (after acc) for all healers. You are free to personally choose differently, of course, but these are the recommendations based on extensive testing and published data and analysis.