Healing melds..

[Rawrz]

Dervy has posted updated 3.4 stat weights. They include healer DPS stat weights for WHM and SCH now, and his conclusion is "If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy)". Source is here: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights

White Mage DPS ONLY:

WD: 9.128
INT: 1.000
DET: 0.159
CRT: 0.182
SS: 0.135
Acc: Cap it
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Scholar DPS ONLY:

WD: 9.128
INT: 1.000
DET: 0.190
CRT: 0.266
SS: 0.316 – 0.366
Acc: Cap it

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

[lulunami]

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

I will just quote what he posted.

Healer Weights are calculated PURELY for full time DPS. For science only; take these weights with a grain of salt. These weights do not take into account Mana consumption, or ANY form of healing/shielding. If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy).

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The reason why the Scholars SS weighting is high, is that roughly 51% of its overall DPS is coming from DoTs. So not only is SS buffing your DPS exponentially due to how it affects your GCD/Casts, but its value is being amplified by also increasing directly affecting 50% of your total PPS via DoTs.

Also, the weighting scholar DPS varies a lot depending on the rotation you use for some reason. It could be an error with my model somewhere handling clipped dots though. Letting your DoTs completely drop, rather than clipping them, boosts the SS weight by 0.5. This is something I’ll be looking into and trying to figure out and does look like it to be a DPS gain, over clipping them.

These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing. I think it is important to not take what Dervy posted out of context, but I am pretty sure that is going to happen anyway.

[Taika]

These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing.

Read again. He specifically says "If you’re going to be hybrid healing/shielding, I’d recommend prioritising Crit over any of the other secondaries (with the exception of accuracy)." In other words, despite pure DPS weights showing for example SpS having higher weight than Crit for SCH, he still recommends prioritising Crit if the healer not only does DPS but also heals and shields. And this recommendation does not only apply to SCH.

[Rawrz]

I will just quote what he posted.



These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing. I think it is important to not take what Dervy posted out of context, but I am pretty sure that is going to happen anyway.

I think you misunderstood my post. I will always prioritize crit over spell speed, so long as I am avoiding determination. It my be a stat weight DPS loss, but it's a heal gain, which is a dps gain.

[Kaurie]

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

As others have noted, this is for DPS only. When taking into account healing you need to consider:

• Spell Speed does not affect your pets cast time, but theoretically does increase whispering dawns HoT
• DET is a flat linear boost to healing and damage, and with each increase becomes less effective
• CRT quadratically increases both healing and damage, but increases are less predictable
• SCH CRT-Lo is not taken into account in Dervy's DPS only calculations
• CRT and DET both affect your pets heals

With that information, we can assume:

• that DET will remain relatively static in its stat weight from DPS to heals
• that CRT will increase it's value (mostly due to adloquium)
• that spell speed will decrease in its value (due to a significant amount of healing power gaining 0 benefit from it)

With that, I pretty much stand by my previous stat priority, with minor changes to weights (assumed balanced healing and DPS):

WD: from between 6 and 9 to 9.128
MND: 1
CRT: from 0.3 to 0.3
SPS: from 0.25 to 0.25
DET: from 0.08 to 0.19

[Rawrz]

The only information I was trying to express was that spell speed beats determination by miles. Crit will always be king to SCH [Those crit Lustrates are just about as delicious as crit adlos!]

[Kaurie]

The only information I was trying to express was that spell speed beats determination by miles. Crit will always be king to SCH [Those crit Lustrates are just about as delicious as crit adlos!]

For sure, I guess I just wanted to add my points and it felt like it logically followed yours

I agree with you, that it's important to consider how having higher CRT can proc more SPS boosts from your pet, which makes CRT even better for balanced heal/DPS

Gotta say that I entirely disagree that a critted lustrate is anywhere near as nice as a crit adlo, especially with deploy :P Though, all crits are nice

[Rawrz]

For sure, I guess I just wanted to add my points and it felt like it logically followed yours

I agree with you, that it's important to consider how having higher CRT can proc more SPS boosts from your pet, which makes CRT even better for balanced heal/DPS

Gotta say that I entirely disagree that a critted lustrate is anywhere near as nice as a crit adlo, especially with deploy :P Though, all crits are nice

The reason I say lustrate is especially nice, is because of the limited amount of stacks you have in a minute. Ideally, you want to heal off the gcd as much as you can, but the less aetherflow have to use healing, the more for energy drain! :]