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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    They outright said if they allowed a shuffle with 9 stickers they would have to nerf the rewards.
    Yeah except they honestly wouldn't have to at all. That statement is disingenuous at best, even if they allowed us to shuffle at 9 stickers, we wouldn't suddenly be having every one getting 2-3 line rewards. In fact, you could still get nine stickers and end up with 0 lines in total or if you had 2 lines but decided to shuffle anyway to try and get 3, RNG could still screw you over and you'd end up with 0-1 lines.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    But 9 stickers still gives you a higher chance of getting multiple lines with a shuffle, even if it's not 100% guaranteed. Ergo, the devs don't want people manipulating the system to win the RNG lottery with better odds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    But 9 stickers still gives you a higher chance of getting multiple lines with a shuffle, even if it's not 100% guaranteed. Ergo, the devs don't want people manipulating the system to win the RNG lottery with better odds.
    That's the point though. Forcing the hand of luck through dedication and more luck (duty finder bonus farming.) With enough dedication and luck you can earn 2-3 lines, giving you more things to do throughout the week with a great payoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    That's the point though. Forcing the hand of luck through dedication and more luck (duty finder bonus farming.) With enough dedication and luck you can earn 2-3 lines, giving you more things to do throughout the week with a great payoff.
    This. Also.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    But 9 stickers still gives you a higher chance of getting multiple lines with a shuffle, even if it's not 100% guaranteed. Ergo, the devs don't want people manipulating the system to win the RNG lottery with better odds.
    Shuffling is already manipulating the RNG system, giving us slightly better odds by being able to shuffle at 9 stickers won't suddenly break the system and get everyone 2-3 lines every week constantly. The RNG is already low enough to win anyway, raising it a bit more really won't hurt or require nerfing the rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Yeah except they honestly wouldn't have to at all. That statement is disingenuous at best, even if they allowed us to shuffle at 9 stickers, we wouldn't suddenly be having every one getting 2-3 line rewards. In fact, you could still get nine stickers and end up with 0 lines in total or if you had 2 lines but decided to shuffle anyway to try and get 3, RNG could still screw you over and you'd end up with 0-1 lines.
    You would still have a substancial increase in the number of people getting the better rewards leading to the devaluing.
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    I believe the intent is to make Wondrous Tails somewhat casual friendly. If you could spend infinite time grinding to get superior rewards, the appeal would be lost to the people who don't have the time or inclination to grind that heavily.

    You can brute force your way to the best result for most things in this game, this is one of the few you can't.
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    Honestly, the system is perfect the way it is now. Does it suck when you have a shot for 3 lines and rng says 'No thank you'? Sure. But that's the nature of the beast, especially since nearly everything can be easily done in 3 hours or less thanks to unsync. I'd say it's perfect the way it is.
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    They said in Fanfest they wouldn't nerf wonderous tails in any way.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    I believe the intent is to make Wondrous Tails somewhat casual friendly. If you could spend infinite time grinding to get superior rewards, the appeal would be lost to the people who don't have the time or inclination to grind that heavily.

    You can brute force your way to the best result for most things in this game, this is one of the few you can't.
    This exactly. If you could shuffle at 9 stickers then WT would ultimate reward those who spent longer grinding it just to get a perfect 3-line shuffle. It would end up becoming yet another ridiculous grind, and those begging for the 9-sticker shuffle would just complain about the grind instead.

    As it is now, just treat WT exactly the same as you treat the Cactpot. You are NOT meant to win regularly. Complete the 9 stickers and get the basic reward. Anything beyond that is a lucky bonus because you won the lottery. If there's something in the prize pool that you REALLY want then you can always buy it off the MB since the rewards are all tradeable.
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    Wondrous Tails

    How wondrous Tails is now they just need to get rid of it. So far got 1 allagan piece worth 10,000 gil for finishing 3 lines. if this is all rewards there giving ones they need to just do away with it. not worth time and effort for 10,000 gil. you get way better rewards from palace of the dead from those sacks.
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