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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggieSmallz View Post
    Hello, this thread probably already been posted before but what are good melds for healer? Is it the same for all healing or is each healing class different melds?
    Personally, I use DET/SS as a WHM that main heals.
    DET/CRIT or on AST that main heals. (Due to AST's versatility, I found CRIT/SS is also nice. I am personally loath to meld DET/SS on AST simply because of how a proc Benefic II now functions.)
    ACC/CRIT on SCH and DPS healers, regardless of class.

    I don't meld PIE as I've never had MP management issues. Nor do I ask for a BRD or MCH to drop their DPS from giving me the refresh status unless I've died (and even then.. I'm probably going to see how long until I can hold out until my own refresh skills are up).

    However, this is only OK until we see what 4.0's revised combat system will bring us.
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    Check this Reddit thread for tested information on WHM and AST stats: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/54f2hu/whm_and_diurnal_ast_healing_formulas_and_more

    Crit is the most powerful boost for your direct casts as well as your HoTs and DoTs, so that should always be prioritised over SpS and Det. SpS and Det give about equal boosts, but for reasons explained in that thread, SpS goes ahead Det in longer fights. But both SpS and Det are worth much less than crit.

    Because SCH also values crit over all other secondary stats, the priorities are currently same for all healer jobs.

    If you're planning to raid, you should also aim for capped accuracy (currently 592 I think) and enough Pie (MP) to be comfortable.
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    I main WHM and play SCH also. I agree with Taika up here. For me after playing with melds for a bit i prefer CRIT above all. Then depending on what you can put on that piece i like sps det. Piety is useful but only really If you have to keep raising ppl, otherwise in a regular/good Group you should be able to maintain MP with shroud and assize on CD with no problem even dpsing.

    Accuracy is needed if you do savage, but things might change in the future as ppl say.

    Hope this helps
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    This is the way i do it all wrong , but meh.
    First off , I only fit gear with the highest crit available, irrespective of the rest of the stats.
    Then I fit det /sp as allowed .

    Mumble ,mumble, complain about me not dps again , mumble ........
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    We are talking about HEALING. No DPS builds. Do not meld accuracy, I think is a waste on healers. Determiantion is the higest weight stat in all healer classes. Critical for shields (SCHand AST) are good. Spell Speed is not really worth and Piety... well. You need too mcuh to make it worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    We are talking about HEALING. No DPS builds. Do not meld accuracy, I think is a waste on healers. Determiantion is the higest weight stat in all healer classes. Critical for shields (SCHand AST) are good. Spell Speed is not really worth and Piety... well. You need too mcuh to make it worth.
    Okay, sure. You think Accuracy is a waste on a healer in Savage/Extreme, but math proves its the stat with the highest contribution to a healer's overall performance.

    By the way, although it has been mentioned before, the Det weights you're looking at are wrong. Critical is going to offer much more than Det, and it probably doesn't even need the Potency half of its scaling to remain superior.
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    I am no pro healer. But as far i can tell when you min maxing certain stat you're sacrificing other stat.

    For example, most crit healer gear sacrifice its pie. So a really high crit stat could result minimal MP pool. Which everyone has their own comfort zone when balancing. But I heard you should at least have 13k for some classes.
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    You don't need Piety or Acc to be a good healer so there both useless.. there is NO rule in the book that said a heal HAS TO DPS at any time, if your DPS is low in raid, then your DPS need to get there shit together and do there ONLY JOB and DPS.

    And as for Piety I have 14k MP @ iLv258 and don't have any problems solo healing Sav, did A9S, A10S and A11S np after we had it down.. as a whm. and i never DPS...again there not needed to be a good healer. At the same time if you want tro be a DPS raid healers go for it.. more power to you.. if not it uesless.

    If SE wanted Healers to be DPS'ing like other in raid they give us more Acc form the start AND make it so we don't have to heal so much. Also were the healer SSS Dummy? oo that right there is not one... Again bec it not our job to DPS ^^/goodbye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu89 View Post
    You don't need Piety or Acc to be a good healer so there both useless.. there is NO rule in the book that said a heal HAS TO DPS at any time, if your DPS is low in raid, then your DPS need to get there shit together and do there ONLY JOB and DPS.

    And as for Piety I have 14k MP @ iLv258 and don't have any problems solo healing Sav, did A9S, A10S and A11S np after we had it down.. as a whm. and i never DPS...again there not needed to be a good healer. So take this eilit bs about healers needing Acc so were ells.

    If SE wanted Healers to be DPS'ing like other in raid they give us more Acc form the start AND make it so we don't have to heal so much. Also were the healer SSS Dummy? oo that right there is not one... Again bec it not our job to DPS ^^/goodbye
    Healers are in the best situation for Accuracy. We can meld our heart out to cap then stop melding. No excess. No shortage. Dps often can't upgrade to new pieces because it would require them to fall below the accuracy requirements.

    Main Healers don't need the extra piety or to touch accuracy, so long as their cohealer meets the requirements if they don't want to dps. The main healer should be practically solo healing since every GCD and OGCD they have should be used to heal, mitigate and precast heals. This should leave the off healer DPSing 90% of the fight and be dealing significant DPS, somewhat near your off tank.

    In our static, I contribute about 40% of the outgoing heals, while our WHM does the other 60%. In A9s I do about 1400 dps and she does 700. This drastically increases our raid performance and we are able to skip the add phase after double scrap line and just burn.

    There also are healer SSS dps dummies. They require more damage than the tank versions. They are a fun challenge. :]
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 10-30-2016 at 10:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    In our static, I contribute about 40% of the outgoing heals, while our WHM does the other 60%. In A9s I do about 1400 dps and she does 700. This drastically increases our raid performance and we are able to skip the add phase after double scrap line and just burn. :]

    There also are healer SSS dps dummies. They require more damage than the tank versions.
    Shhh. I've been on the Healer forums the last few days. Turns out, lots of Healer's would prefer to do the Manderville between heals than to help DPS. You'll anger them.
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