So I heard you wanted a Hellhound Mount....well..

[Kahnom]

The only mount I want from PVP is Gloria.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

This shows how SE completely fails to see what its community needs are and why content is being played or not, adding a mount, something many will like, yeah sure, will encourage the influx of players for a few weeks for the next season, but since the feast is still terrible, that influx will surely drop and we will be back at square one. Giving modes, any modes, special-one time rewards isn't the way to encourage people, if SE were to put the effort they do into making pvp fun instead of "restrectively rewarding" much more people would be enjoying it. Think about the seasonal rewards, they are silly, instead of giving for example, unique one time only rewards each season, give players the freedom, as they move up in the ranks, to get rewards, every season of any season they want. For example, if i get into diamond during season 6, allow me to pick any diamond level reward from seasons 1 through 6 of my choice.

And get rid of that 100 players rewarding, make it so reaching certain ranks allow for the rewards.

-Broze: Bronze Accesory.
-Silver: Silver Accesory + Boots and Gloves.
-Gold: Gold Accesory + Legs and Chest.
-Platinum: Platinum Accesory + Headgear.
-Diamond: Diamond Accesory + Furniture/Mount.

And again, allow us to pick which reward we want from any season, so if players started playing today, they can get wolf rewards from season 1 instead of whatever season 3 is going to bring, give us freedom, choises and more easily gotten rewards and watch the feast be full of people. Players don't want to grind and have their options and rewards limited in PvE, what made anyone think they would like it in PvP.

idk why SE is so obsessed to make everything a long term grind, restrcitive and rarity based reward, if for some weird reason, they think that is encouraging people to do content, this whole pvp (has its been since its introduction) is a testmant that this way of doing things isn't working.

[TiaHariberux3]

idk why SE is so obsessed to make everything a long term grind, restrcitive and rarity based reward, if for some weird reason, they think that is encouraging people to do content, this whole pvp (has its been since its introduction) is a testmant that this way of doing things isn't working.

Thats what the game lacks the most rewards that have value and last for long time. Guess what there are people who like pvp? Why shouldnt they be rewarded like Raiders? Just because the pvp community is small doesnt mean they cant get rewards even the "pve based" ffxiv lacks players that do actual endgame content. Only thing Im seeing here is ppl crying over a mount they cant get even though you can try in season 3 and 4 to get it.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Thats what the game lacks the most rewards that have value and last for long time. Guess what there are people who like pvp? Why shouldnt they be rewarded like Raiders? Just because the pvp community is small doesnt mean they cant get rewards even the "pve based" ffxiv lacks players that do actual endgame content. Only thing Im seeing here is ppl crying over a mount they cant get even though you can try in season 3 and 4 to get it.

The game doesnt lack long term goals or rewards, in fact, is full of them, everything in this game is behind some kind of grind wall, which actually, is hurting player activity: "Why would i do this if it takes so long and gets replaced later on anyway?"

The problem here is not that people can't get a mount, is that the whole reward structure of pvp and how its handled. You can't encourage people to participate in a game mode when they don't feel they are progressing to a goal cause the reward is months away and isn't really worth the time investment, or maybe, people wanted to get a previous season reward and they can't now cause they started to play this month.

The reward structure of pvp is: messy, prohibitive, unrewarding, unencouraging, and way too exclusive to motivate participation and allow for to to truly develop. There is nothing worse to motivate people to participate in a piece of content than one time exclusive items.

Lets say they release this mount for diamond rank. lets say 1 people per data center get it (following this pvp messed up reward system). They made a mount, for 7 people...? If its for the top 10, then is for 70... Even if its for 700 people. Sorry, but this reward structure is absolutely stupid and anyone thinking about joining pvp just for this mount alone will quit and leave pvp after a few weeks, once again, leaving it dead as it is. Supporting this kind of "encouragment" to the feast is like frontline players supporting GC restrictions because lore reasons.

[Magic-Mal]

The reasons why this mount as a reward causes so much salt and is a bad decision on SE's part(imo) compared to raiding are these:

-No some random player who knows nothing about PvP will ever make it to the top unless they are a genius.
-People who are already rank 50 have a biiig advantage over people with lower ranks.
-People who know what melds and what gear to put on will have an advantage
-Win trading
-Alts
-Premade groups(assumption, I don't know if they're allowed
-Class imbalances
-The mount is a limited time seasonal reward put into minority content that only a limited amount of people can get. A verrry limited amount considering its only 100 out of and entire data center.


Imagine if Yoshi decided to put the Edda dress, a requested dress from the forums, as a floor 200 PotD reward that only 100 people can get and its limited time.

This is why this PvP reward cant be compared to raid rewards although both are played by a minority. Raid rewards aren't up a limited time event and only have 100 in stock then bye-bye.

All this does is cater to the top 100 kinda. The top 100 will most likely stay the top 100 and get the stuff. It's like if you make the A12S mount limited to only 100 people. Top raiders will always get them.

Stuff like that is why people are salty

[TiaHariberux3]

The game doesnt lack long term goals or rewards, in fact, is full of them, everything in this game is behind some kind of grind wall, which actually, is hurting player activity: "Why would i do this if it takes so long and gets replaced later on anyway?"

I meant no rewards that last a long time if its not worth your time deal with it that goes for everyone on here. People should stop acting as if they were entitled to have everything.Other MMOs have such rewards too its just right to give ppl something like this. People dont complain about the system they just complain cause they like the mount I didnt saw any complaints last 2 seasons here where someone said that the gear is unfair etc.. Event mounts/items are limited for a certain group of players for a limited time so. If people actually made the effort reading guides, learning their stuff and practice they could maybe place in top100 in season4 or so. This thread is full of players who want everything for nothing I saw so many complaining in other threads about stuff being cash shop then ingame grind then event etc. Cant please everyone.

[Araxes]

YES! Finaly the PvPers get something unique Mountwise. Its about time. Thank you SE.
BTW: Even though PvP has a smaller playerbase we still should get some rewards that PVE'ers dont get. I mean: i never complained about the Alexander Savage mounts only PvE'ers get.

Give them PvP'ers some love.

[jameseoakes]

YES! Finaly the PvPers get something unique Mountwise. Its about time. Thank you SE.
BTW: Even though PvP has a smaller playerbase we still should get some rewards that PVE'ers dont get. I mean: i never complained about the Alexander Savage mounts only PvE'ers get.

Give them PvP'ers some love.

Isn't there like 6 PVP exclusive mounts already?

[Blood-Aki]

YES! Finaly the PvPers get something unique Mountwise. Its about time. Thank you SE.
BTW: Even though PvP has a smaller playerbase we still should get some rewards that PVE'ers dont get. I mean: i never complained about the Alexander Savage mounts only PvE'ers get.

Give them PvP'ers some love.

it's not the only one and there is nothing "unique" about it, as its another reskin, but as you said pvpers do need something to make them feel special, especially for those with not enough skill to do raid content, and pvp is there since it requires a lot less.

But they do have other mounts.

[TiaHariberux3]

Isn't there like 6 PVP exclusive mounts already?

Well warsteed, ads and the airship rest are reskins and they are behind content that anyone can win so everyone can get them.

it's not the only one and there is nothing "unique" about it, as its another reskin, but as you said pvpers do need something to make them feel special, especially for those with not enough skill to do raid content, and pvp is there since it requires a lot less.

But they do have other mounts.

"its just another reskin" Well its smth not everyone get and there is no hellhound as mount ingame yet so yes unique if you think its just a reskin why complaining? Also those "other mounts" are for everyone reachable which takes no skill. So you say PvPers dont have enough skill for raids and PvP require a lot less skill?


You must have not ever played feast there are enough top PvErs under the top Pvpers. PvP requires more than just following a script like in pve compare healing in savage and healing in 4vs4 ranked feast and you will see what Im talking about. You will get rekt every game even if you are good at savage healing doesnt matter you will be one of those ppl who dies in the first few secs then come back again and say it does require less skill.