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  1. #21
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Not really. Thordan was added in 3.35-- nearly a year and a half following his release. If 3.55 were released in say, April. That would be roughly the same timeline. Nidhogg is only four months old. They aren't going to make totems available that fast since no one will touch him afterwards. As for patch cycles, I personally estimate we will see them as follows:

    3.5: January 10th
    3.55: April 25th
    Stormblood: Sometime early July

    If they do a minor patch in between, thus making it 3.55 and 3.56, then we'll probably see Nidhogg totems around February. I doubt anytime before.
    Either way, all of them will likely be on the totem exchange vendor by 3.56, just like all the primal ponies had their drop rates increased in 2.56. This way, players will have even more incentive to farm for these birds, and to keep playing the game, since the entirety of 3.5 will be around for about 1.5 months longer than the usual patches.
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    Miss Cioccolata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    75? Lol. You better be glad that exchange is even there in the first place.


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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    The reason they don't is your 112 runs likely meant jumping into Party Finder. If you were guaranteed a bird after 99 attempts, you'd now have no reason to touch Sophia EX. With the cross server PF being implemented in 3.5, we'll be pulling from everyone on our respective data centers. Basically, they want you to have some measure of bad luck to assure you'll keep doing the content. Once its old enough people have generally moved on, they then buff the rates to get people back in and offer an alternative method to beat RNG since it isn't relevant content anymore.
    I understand they need some way to keep the content relevant, it's just an absolute bother to carry DPS only to lose over and over again, a lot of the time to players who do poorly, like dying half the fight. It'd be nice if they made it more competitive, maybe that might even help keep the content relevant (i.e. A leaderboards for fastest clears).
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  4. #24
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    I have an idea, why not just make it require 9'900 totems straight off the mark, no RNG drops. ninety nine hundred clears (maybe minus one stack of 99 if it would make trading impossible). That'd keep the content relevant for quite some time right?

    EDIT: Or bundle it into an achievement for getting say 5'000 clears of Sophia Ex, and then the guy at Old Gridania gives you the mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    In a not so serious sense, when you can trust party finder/raid finder to actually be able to farm it..because I've seen some shit lol
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  6. #26
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    I lost the count after 350ish Ravana Extreme but I can assure you it was easily over 500. I used most totems to desynth. When the totem>bird thing happened I dropped the Rose Lanner after 3 fights
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    I am still not sure why 99 tokens would not be keeping the content relevant? I mean even with the tokens a person still has to run the same content 99 times..If you calculate that a fight takes 7 minutes to beat, which is unreachable for most, you would be 693 minutes in this fight to have all the tokens that means 11 hours! This is purely the fight itself. Now this might be achievable with a great static and a higher ilvl but most of the time you will have a waiting time, than depending on the people it might be a success or not..and so on. This makes the time you need to get those 99 tokens way higher..Lets not forget that not everyone can play lots of hours per day or only want to fight against one primal all the time. Even with the tokens for the other primals I still see parties for farming them so even those are still relevant.

    I just cant see much negative to having them from the beginning since, there will always be people that get it really fast and some run it hundreds of time..its just much more fair for those with really bad rng because imo running something like Sephi Ex 99 times is still quite stressful..

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I have an idea, why not just make it require 9'900 totems straight off the mark, no RNG drops. ninety nine hundred clears (maybe minus one stack of 99 if it would make trading impossible). That'd keep the content relevant for quite some time right?
    You do know that just again taking 7 minutes for each fight this would mean someone has to run this content 69300 minutes...1155 hours..that is not reasonable in any way, especially since this would be for only one bird..I am quite sure that this would kill content way faster than anything because there is quite the different between a carrot on a stick and something impossible other than for people with an ungodly amount of time..Even 5000 runs makes this around 580 hours..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-29-2016 at 09:02 PM.

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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Not really. Thordan was added in 3.35-- nearly a year and a half following his release.
    Sorry, that's not correct. Minstrel's Ballad: Thordan's Reign released in Patch 3.1 in November 2015. Patch 3.35, which allowed people to turn in Heaven's Ward fragments for the round lanner whistle, released in July 2016. That's actually eight months and not a year and a half.

    Sephirot extreme released in Patch 3.2, February 2016, eight months ago. I'd expect to see a totem turn in for him at the next patch. And I really, really hope we get it, because my 99 totems are waiting.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    You do know that just again taking 7 minutes for each fight this would mean someone has to run this content 69300 minutes...1155 hours..that is not reasonable in any way, especially since this would be for only one bird..I am quite sure that this would kill content way faster than anything because there is quite the different between a carrot on a stick and something impossible other than for people with an ungodly amount of time..Even 5000 runs makes this around 580 hours..
    Of course, the numbers can be tweaked, but I think they need to be higher than 99, and remove the RNG drops for it. That way those who get it on their 2nd run otherwise, have to keep going back to the content. That is the main thing I want behind my idea, the removal of the RNG drops and make it a progression based thing only. The 9'900 clears, was me being my "Think big, REALLY BIG" self again. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I have an idea, why not just make it require 9'900 totems straight off the mark, no RNG drops. ninety nine hundred clears (maybe minus one stack of 99 if it would make trading impossible). That'd keep the content relevant for quite some time right?

    EDIT: Or bundle it into an achievement for getting say 5'000 clears of Sophia Ex, and then the guy at Old Gridania gives you the mount.
    That sounds even worse! D: I'd rather deal with the RNG/sit on 99 tokens for a couple months than run a duty 5,000 times for a mount. Talk about major burnout!

    I have cleared over 30 times just from doing Sophia here and there when I'm bored. The whistle has dropped twice. I rolled an 18, and a 15 both times.
    My 18 roll...was the second highest roll out of the entire party. The person that beat me rolled an obscenely high number (somewhere in the 90s), and was a complete jerk the entire run to the party for no reason. Of course they get the bird. >.>
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