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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    You ignore the other major design choices made in FFXIV in that gear in general isn't overly sexualized, and Lalafell are constantly given toned down versions of revealing gear of what is revealing, especially on the girls.

    The art books mention the fact that the team is adamant about keeping Lalafell cute and childlike, and not sexy, at every turn.

    That isn't the case with Lyns! (I guess Elin was their name in another language?)
    Making the point





    against the lyns





    None of it looks particularly innocent.

    Anyway's, Vieraaa!!! XU

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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    You won't EVER get a beastly furry race nor something wild non human like. The team said this already they won't do that because Japanese do not like beastly races plus they will have to rework all the textures and 3D models of the armors to make them fit so it will never happen. Look how AuRa ended up.
    that's silly. FF games don't have only Japanese audience, and if the other 99% of the planet, want furry chars, then why not?
    without altering armor models.
    everything is already clipping really badly, and they don't need to make gorillas or beast-tribe races for us; they could have done something like Aman in Tera (basically beastly Roe) and they could have made Miqs, something like Rei in Breath of Fire III,
    It's an option that many ppl want, so it's stupid reason not to do it, just because "Japanese people" (big generalization) don't like it.
    also it just proves how "Hyur" every race is, because apparently they need to add "ears" to helmets, so miq and elezen won't look like any hyur, because they barely have any distinguishing features.
    they already need to deform every armor for Lalafells and male roes, so they might as well drop support for those, if it's such a problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Says the Hyur.
    It's better to be Highlander, than fake Hyur.
    Also, there's no other options...since everything looks like Hyur...just shittier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus View Post
    Tera's elin on the other hand... well, I played a bunny Elin there too but... well, iirc, most gear was toned down... pretty sure... they didn't wear the nipple tassel gear of other races at least... probably... yeah... lol.
    you should have seen the textures hidden in the game files........there was nothing cute about it.......
    i'm pretty sure every such race in any game, is the product of a pedo, under the guise of being cute.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 10-26-2016 at 08:55 AM.

  3. #83
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    Ugh, those are still mellowed out versions of what other races wear, but the point is made. I concede, it's all creepy, context aside.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders View Post
    Apearances of those tribes are too far from human beings lol
    Absolutely true, but my concern is it would turn into a debate about why only some beast tribes get a playable alternative.

    And people would still ask for Viera.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Absolutely true, but my concern is it would turn into a debate about why only some beast tribes get a playable alternative.

    And people would still ask for Viera.
    Hmmm...does it really conflict with the Viera plan? I myself am not in favor of bunny guy because it is quite similar as Miqo'te. There should not be only one new race in the future, probably.
    And if new race is based on existent beast tribes, it is easy to make out their habitation and culture. Opening a new map as their related city-state (flyable city-state, which none of the current cities can be) somewhere between Gridania and the sea of clouds sounds not bad...
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  6. #86
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    No. Speedo catboys are bad enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    This is kawaii, do this instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders View Post
    And if new race is based on existent beast tribes, it is easy to make out their habitation and culture. Opening a new map as their related city-state (flyable city-state, which none of the current cities can be) somewhere between Gridania and the sea of clouds sounds not bad...
    Sadly, it was made very clear that Beast Tribes will never be playable due to lore reasons (and gear design and 'not-cute' reasons). Of course, there's still the option to make 'Beastman Glamour' or something. Just apply, for example, a Vanu Vanu Prism on the body and bam, now you're a Vanu Vanu. Most SE would need to do with that is redo certain animations, especially for 'important' cutscenes. No gear will need to be redesigned and since it's Glamour, you're not breaking lore.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    And people would still ask for Viera.
    The solution here would be... give us Viera.

    Given that no matter when and where a race thread or poll pops up the overwhelming opinion always leans towards those wanting Viera, all one needs to do is put it in game. Once Viera are out of the way, suddenly, the door is open for a wide variety of more ambiguous desires from the playerbase. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Sadly, it was made very clear that Beast Tribes will never be playable due to lore reasons (and gear design and 'not-cute' reasons). Of course, there's still the option to make 'Beastman Glamour' or something. Just apply, for example, a Vanu Vanu Prism on the body and bam, now you're a Vanu Vanu. Most SE would need to do with that is redo certain animations, especially for 'important' cutscenes. No gear will need to be redesigned and since it's Glamour, you're not breaking lore.
    We have Vanu Vanu and Gnath costumes in game. Closest thing we will get.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Sadly, it was made very clear that Beast Tribes will never be playable due to lore reasons (and gear design and 'not-cute' reasons). Of course, there's still the option to make 'Beastman Glamour' or something. Just apply, for example, a Vanu Vanu Prism on the body and bam, now you're a Vanu Vanu...
    It seems we both side misunderstand something.
    When I first talked about bird-man, I just meant a race with almost human appearance but some tiny animal features (just like Au Ra and Viera). Its general race is mortal, not bird or beast.
    Is that also a "Beast Tribe"? I'm curious why I mention "bird" people always think about "beast tribes". Is it all because of the Vanu Vanu? Or the game has announced something like "we would never add new race with beast features"? (that's impossible, as the Viera already has rabbit ears and tail)
    In other words, the difference between my "bird-man" and Vanu Vanu is just like that between Au Ra and wyvern.
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    Last edited by Dragon_Sanders; 10-26-2016 at 12:56 PM.

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