Request : In Stormblood, allow us to gear without tomestones

[Ghishlain]

Sophia EX requires i235. Without any tome gear, you don't have access to anything above the current EX dungeon, even with a Nidhogg's weapon.

You are indeed correct, I was reading the requirement for Sophia normal instead of extreme. My mistake.

It does add more weight to your argument. *Contemplates* I disagree with boosting dungeon loot to uncapped tome gear as it would almost entirely invalidate Alex Normal and the future tier of VA but having them closer to 230 would be ideal to allow people into Alex Normal for the current tier. Between the 230 loot you get from the dungeon and the 230 / 240 pieces you make via Lore tomestone from getting dungeon loot, it wouldn't be hard to get to the necessary 230 to get into Alex Normal.

[Lunafreya]

Make relic armour a thing. I'm getting so bored of this shitting on gear every 3 months kind of thing. I know other players love it but I personally don't. It promotes boredom and too much of it. I would love to see alternate hard questlines that make us test our strength against near impossible feats for our gear which can then be used to beat savage.

[NolLacnala]

Tomes/weekly tokens were originally meant to allow non-raiders to (mostly) keep up with raiders. Instead, they're being used to time gate the entire playerbase, so into the trash they go!

[Reynhart]

it would almost entirely invalidate Alex Normal and the future tier

Why ? Does it invalidate Creator normal that you can fully equip in Lore gear ?

it wouldn't be hard to get to the necessary 230 to get into Alex Normal

It's already not hard to gain tomestones or run Mhach.

As for the ilvl of dungeons, I'd say EX dungeons at i235. With a ring Midas ring (220) and a Nidhogg's weapon (235), it would put put you at 233, to enter Creator. If you could have two rings, having i230 in EX dungeon would be enough.

Miscalculation on my part. With a full 230 set, a 220 ring and a 235 weapon/shield, the average ilvl is exactly 230, so it's enough to enter Creator.

[Ghishlain]

Why ? Does it invalidate Creator normal that you can fully equip in Lore gear ?

It's already not hard to gain tomestones or run Mhach.

I will admit I mistyped this when I said "uncapped tome gear" because I meant "non-upgraded Scrips gear" and was thinking too fast and being able to get i260 on the fly.

I've pretty much re-read your OP again just to make sure I don't make another stupid error (lol, I'm good at this!) and will admit that I do like your idea when you consider it's all about the unlimited tomestones.

I think where you're meeting resistance is the fact most people are (wrongfully, myself included) assuming you're talking about giving away Scrips-ilvl gear when you're actually talking about Lore gear, and Eso gear the patch cycle before, etc.

Though I will admit, if you're saying "It's not to hard to gain tomestones" why even bring up the suggestion to an alternative then? It just seems to undermine your own argument at that point and indicating it's just a waste for Dev's to make such a minor change. [edit] N/M, I know what you're going to aim for so I'll just leave it at that.

Good luck with your request.

[Ametrine]

If the idea is to offer more methods to gain high tier gear, I'm all for it. I've neen asking for the Devs to spread out BiS gear options for some time, but letting players of all skill ranges and content preferences the option to pick their grind poison would make a huge difference in the long run.

[Averax]

Not to be rude but world quests are awful please keep them far away from this game.

World quests are easy and the rewards feel substantial from them, they're the equivalent of a quick daily.

[Ametrine]

Make relic armour a thing. I'm getting so bored of this shitting on gear every 3 months kind of thing. I know other players love it but I personally don't. It promotes boredom and too much of it. I would love to see alternate hard questlines that make us test our strength against near impossible feats for our gear which can then be used to beat savage.

Relic armor! I'd love that! Just have the look of it change with upgrades and this would be a stellar option for gearing up.

[Zari]

Yes, I'll gain tomestones, but I'm bored of running <insert_dungeon_name_here> for tomestones over and over. I'd love to have a clear goal when I enter one specific dungeon, sometimes. And now, apart from the first clear, there's no reason.

But then you have to run that same dungeon over and over again, most likely MORE times, for the CHANCE at getting your RNG-based gear. I don't see how it is much different, or even better???

[Zumi]

I like the system we have now in FFXIV.

Blizzard did this with Legion, got rid of any kind of point system (tome system). All your gear now comes from random dungeon drops and random world quests. Their OF has a ton of people complaining about RNG how they don't get the gear they wanted to drop.

If they had no tome system in FFXIV it would take so much longer to gear up and frustrate people that they did X dungeon so many times and their piece hasn't dropped. While with the tome system we know how many times we have to run the dungeon before getting a piece of gear.