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    I don't understand why people think that unlinking the MSQ from dungeon and job access will somehow mean that 1) no one will do the story and 2) no one will do the dungeons.

    Have y'all played any other MMO ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I don't understand why people think that unlinking the MSQ from dungeon and job access will somehow mean that 1) no one will do the story and 2) no one will do the dungeons.

    Have y'all played any other MMO ever?
    I think the opposite argument is where a lot of opposition comes from as well. Even if they don't do what you want them to, it doesn't mean that everyone will suddenly stop playing the game, nor does it mean that all new players will become overburdened and quit purely because of MSQ reqs.

    Basically, the arguments are pointless here because it's 1) not a big deal to the overall game (only to select individuals, like yourself) and 2) the devs clearly want this as part of their design for now. You might say I'm speaking for them, but this is pure logic at play here that centers around the basic idea of creative freedom and weighing pros and cons against production and the consumer base. The odds are stacked against you, at this time, just based on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    You might say I'm speaking for them, but this is pure logic at play here that centers around the basic idea of creative freedom and weighing pros and cons against production and the consumer base. The odds are stacked against you, at this time, just based on that.
    You're definitely speaking for them, and falsly, as Yoshi has said explicitly that they want to ease off on the restrictions to content, as quoted by a couple posters previously in this thread.

    It is a big deal. It very nearly drove me to quit the first time. I would definitely have not even bothered if I'd had to go through two expansions worth of content to get to the job I wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    You're definitely speaking for them, and falsly, as Yoshi has said explicitly that they want to ease off on the restrictions to content, as quoted by a couple posters previously in this thread.

    It is a big deal. It very nearly drove me to quit the first time. I would definitely have not even bothered if I'd had to go through two expansions worth of content to get to the job I wanted.
    Why did completing ARR MSQ nearly make you quit the game?
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    You're definitely speaking for them, and falsly, as Yoshi has said explicitly that they want to ease off on the restrictions to content, as quoted by a couple posters previously in this thread.

    It is a big deal. It very nearly drove me to quit the first time. I would definitely have not even bothered if I'd had to go through two expansions worth of content to get to the job I wanted.
    If speaking logically is speaking for them, then yes, I am. I know that concept is very hard to grasp, but logic does occur among open minded people. I know about the statement by him, I even said it myself in an earlier post (I think). Again, logic is at play with that one. Him stating they'll ease off on restrictions doesn't mean they'll do it for everything. Hell, the new jobs may be what he's talking about, since that was the biggest criticism with HW at the time. We don't know. Your "falsly" statement makes no sense, given the situation. The only one falsely claiming anything is you. When what's actually going on right now goes against what you think is true, yet you think it's supposed to be otherwise despite no actual evidence to state so, you really do need to take a few steps back on your view.

    As I noted, it certainly is a big deal to you. That doesn't mean it's universally shared. You're not the only one who found an aspect of the game that nearly drove you to quit. Practically everything, especially the progressive portions of the game (leveling, questing, etc), can drive someone to quit. Your situation is not special and is clearly not as important as you think it is to everyone else. I would think the fact that they're apparently going through with MSQ reqs would be a wake up call to you on not having a dire perspective, but I guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I don't understand why people think that unlinking the MSQ from dungeon and job access will somehow mean that 1) no one will do the story and 2) no one will do the dungeons.

    Have y'all played any other MMO ever?
    yeh ive played a lot of mmos (asherons call 2 , eq 2 , age of connan , star wars , rift , guild wars 2 , the secret world , ), and ffxiv is the 2nd mmo that hooked me up again :P coz its not a mindless grind all the way up to 60 , coz i have the MSQ ^^

    and i must say from all mmos that ive played so far , the secret world had the best community from all , really helpfull and nice to new players ^^
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