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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Does that make the XIV incarnation of Ninja a bad one ?
    This is always a dangerous question to ask. In this game, for ANY job you will find folks who will claim it was Ruined Forever by the way it was implemented in this game. WAR? They made it a tank, unforgivable! SMN? They made it a dot-DPS instead of focusing on summon damage, unforgivable! BRD? They have extremely limited support ability, unforgivable! DRK? No self-harm abilities, unforgivable! I could go on and on. Naturally, there are going to be folks critical of how NIN was implemented, as well.

    And you know what? There opinions don't necessarily matter. Try as they might, SE will NEVER satisfy everyone. It's best for them to ignore the peanut gallery, and create the job in such a way that it fits THIS game, not so that it perfectly copies how it worked in OTHER games.

    For folks harping on "BLU must learn its skills from mobs, otherwise, unforgivable!" do bear in mind that the manner in which BLU learns spells from mobs has varied from game to game to game. Sometimes it's learned from consumable items (Quistis, FFVIII), sometimes you need to use a special ability on a mob (Khimari, FFX), sometimes you need to be outright hit by the ability (Strago, FFVI), sometimes it's enough to just be in combat with the mob when it uses it (You, FFXI).

    While it is true that it has ALWAYS been a component of BLU that you needed to seek out the monsters using the skills to learn them from them, if this is the biggest thing stopping Yoshi P from authorizing implementation of the job (he's afraid folks will be rejected for not having learned the proper spells), I say SCREW IT. Learn the abilities from the appropriate monsters, but in scripted fights that take place during job quests. Any BLU that does their job quests will have every Blue Magic spell in the game, and so the only way you'd reject a BLU for not having spells is if they didn't bother with their job quests. Which is fair, since the same handicap applies to other jobs, as well - if they don't do their job quests, they don't have all of their abilities, and you'd likely reject them, as well.

    The most important thing about being a BLU, is being a mage that uses monster skills. Pretty much everything else is negotiable.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Learn the abilities from the appropriate monsters, but in scripted fights that take place during job quests.
    Exactly what I said

    I'm always under the impression that Yoshi-P drowns in a puddle..."It so difficult to do this thing..." hmmm, no, I don't think it is. It's like the eternal debate about SMN and SCH, and how clunky it is because of the bonus points, or the job adjustment...Remove the bonus point and add a main stat bonus to the job crystal, and make adjustement on the job skills...there, done. Speaking of SMN, some of its quest actually require doing some trials from the MSQ, so sending a BLU to learn a spell in Aurum Vale would not be that peculiar.
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