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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Why did you show me this. D: Lolz jk I already looked over it once for aspected shields and dps back then. ;D But i never really looked into the healing.

    Also, I'm gonna start summoning my fat cat to defend me from further molestations. He trained in the art of Belly rubs distraction. Can't wait until relic 3.45 comes out so I can gauge my DPS again. >_<
    =p

    *Now hijacking this thread to interrogate Rawrz* Are your numbers for story mode Creator on fflogs with a Sophia weapon or relic weapon? I imagine your relic is Accuracy + Crit but I am curious. *Pets Rawrz's fat cat happily while waiting* Also I'd like to heal Savage but I've been pushed to MCH to make sure my group gets off the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    =p

    *Now hijacking this thread to interrogate Rawrz* Are your numbers for story mode Creator on fflogs with a Sophia weapon or relic weapon? I imagine your relic is Accuracy + Crit but I am curious. *Pets Rawrz's fat cat happily while waiting* Also I'd like to heal Savage but I've been pushed to MCH to make sure my group gets off the ground.
    Accuracy + Crit with anima for accuracy reasons. I only use Sophia in expert for the "Maybe i can beat a dps" dps. Id have savage fflogs, but our raid only posts private logs because feelings. :[

    It's fun to heal. Our WHM is a DPS Whore too, so that's always fun. I spend way more stacks on indom/lustrate than I ever do on energy drain. #ogcdislife q.q But she has to have her deeps too </3.

    *looks at fat cat and glares* You are not worth your salted cod. >:[

    Sorry thread D:
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Physick x10: 3000 (2.50s CD)
    Physick is 400 potency, same as cure and benefic, don't know where you keep getting 300 from.

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    Now child, sit down before you embarrass yourself more.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 10-21-2016 at 02:23 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Though added SCH shield, it only overwrites the old shield when you heal higher than current shield hp, so unless assuming target is taking hard enough attack to reduce it enough(which I assume you/we were so no hate here O-o. I enjoy this conversation lol), the heal could be from 300-600 so it is a variable number
    For presence of mind, it's duration is 15s, and to be honest,when you use it most of the time you gotta wait the GCD a bit, so i would say you can maybe add 400 for it, and i'm not even sure.


    On the other hand, for the scholar calculation, remember that i stated that every heal from the WHM was considered without overheal, and that's why i also consider every shield from the SCH as efficient and not overlaping.

    (and yes, it's just a discussion, i'm not here to hate or anything, i just disliked your first comment which was kinda aggressive towards someone asking a question :s)
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Physick is 400 potency, same as cure and benefic, don't know where you keep getting 300 from.
    I quick mistype in getting numbers. I knew the scholar looked off but for quick glance, as I was doing other things, I couldn't figure it out. Also, I am sitting. Thank you. Even though my numbers were off, the point I was getting at wasn't missed wrong. I was looking at heal output (Getting 1% hp to 100% fastest/better at it overall)


    Quote Originally Posted by Docteur_Fluttershy View Post
    For presence of mind, it's duration is 15s, and to be honest,when you use it most of the time you gotta wait the GCD a bit, so i would say you can maybe add 400 for it, and i'm not even sure.
    Presence of Mind is on it's own GCD and it takes ~0.50s from cast time/recast time. With that, you could get at least one more cure II in or two. I do remember, as I said I assumed you were lol. To be fair, I might of jumped the gun a bit, but I did take that "question" a bit rude is all.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    I quick mistype in getting numbers. I knew the scholar looked off but for quick glance, as I was doing other things, I couldn't figure it out. Also, I am sitting. Thank you. Even though my numbers were off, the point I was getting at wasn't missed wrong. I was looking at heal output (Getting 1% hp to 100% fastest/better at it overall)
    This is the part where I say "Fairy embrace is only 200 real potency, since the HW nerf."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    This is the part where I say "Fairy embrace is only 200 real potency, since the HW nerf."
    I don't remember seeing that and online + in game. It says 300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    I don't remember seeing that and online + in game. It says 300
    Do a quick test. Potency scales. You'll notice that if physick does X, then Adlo will do (3/4)X. Embrace will do (2/3)Adlo healing, when it should do the same. (1/2)physick works as well. 200 potency.
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    As a new player this is so intimidating haha I main a whm and I have been playing scholar as well ha I have no clue how u guys get all these numbers so lost haha , I just try not to let people die hahaha i guess im doing it all wrong
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Do a quick test. Potency scales. You'll notice that if physick does X, then Adlo will do (3/4)X. Embrace will do (2/3)Adlo healing, when it should do the same. (1/2)physick works as well. 200 potency.
    To add more technical depth to this, the Fairy stats scale differently in HW versus AAR. While the fairy is the same level as their master/mistress, at level 60 their stats are basically scaled down by 33% (thus a 300 potency embrace is approximately 200 potency when comparing it to how hard the master / mistress can heal for).

    [Edit] This was an intentional change from the S-E dev team that actually wasn't in any patch notes when 3.0 was launched. The only reason we know about it is because it was a response to a question on a live letter at the beginning of HW.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 10-21-2016 at 03:13 AM. Reason: A bit more info.

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