With Eve gone, only sub based MMOs left are FFXIV and WoW

[AlexionSkylark]

snip about the current state of EVE

My relationship with EVE is kinda on-and-off. Ever since the launch, I activate a sub, play a couple of months, get bored, unsub, wait a year or so, then rinse and repeat. I must be the oldest player in EVE with low-to-mid SP. Now you told me some very interesting stuff! I might fire up my sub again to check it out. My PvP skills are kinda awful, so I only took a few small dips in low/nullsec. I wanted to manufacture, just got into T2 production but it was really really hard to be competitive and make a profit, due to not owning a POS. Did some studies and some dives in PI thinking it might be possible to have a POS and be self-sustainable fuel-wise in a few months, but that didn't work out well.

Again, After what you said, I'm really keen on unfreezing my sub to check out the current content

[Jandor]

[snip] Again, After what you said, I'm really keen on unfreezing my sub to check out the current content

I'd wait until they add in the new trial mode tbh, sign up with Pandemic Horde (if you want to get stuck into PvP) or Karmafleet (if you want some PvP but not on your doorstep every other day) and give it a go. I bet both organizations are already planning something with the influx of players the game will see.

As for Citadels and other new structures, the plan IIRC (been unsubbed a while now, just follow the news a bit still) is to reduce NS dependency on HS by making it easier to manufacture out in the depths, can always sample it for yourself before deciding to resub. If you want to manufacture I reckon null could soon be the place to do it, less competition = more profits.

And did you at all bother to read the links I provided? I'm assuming not. Because if you did you would have read that CCP (the company that creates EVE Online) is planning for it to go F2P in November. Next month.
One of the links is actually EVE Online's community site.
Unless I'm spouting old news that has since changed.. I have no issue with admitting I'm wrong, but I'm not doing so with people that aren't going to acknowledge the info I've provided.

You're definition of F2P is weird, a version of pokemon that ended at the 1st gym would be a full free game using it. Pretty much everyone else would call it a demo, or a trial, or a sample.
'EVE goes F2P' generates more clicks than 'EVE removes time limit from trial'. That is why gaming news sites are reporting it as F2P.

The closest thing I can think of would probably be Guild Wars 2, I think you're restricted to level 60 instead of 80 and can't access the new areas but other than that it's pretty much the full game. That was widely reported as 'going F2P' but most people still refer to it as a B2P title because while the amount you get for free is certainly generous you're still missing massive chunks of the game.

[Kyuuen]

You're definition of F2P is weird, a version of pokemon that ended at the 1st gym would be a full free game using it. Pretty much everyone else would call it a demo, or a trial, or a sample.
'EVE goes F2P' generates more clicks than 'EVE removes time limit from trial'. That is why gaming news sites are reporting it as F2P.

Apologies if you responded to this before my editing... over reacted and jumped to conclusions.

However, regardless of the fact that features and content will be gated behind actually becoming a sub. You have the choice to play a game; that you >>HAD<< to have been a sub to play in the past, indefinitely through your choosing and without end. So you are playing a game, that you ultimately DO NOT have; or rather will not have to in the future, to pay a monthly fee for, therefore it is F2P and is not a "demo" or "trial," as those tend to have an end, conclusion or limit to.

You don't get to redefine F2P just because you don't like the option available.

[Jandor]

One of CCP own Dev's said it was going F2P... ffs stop being lazy and actually go to the first link of the three I posted. I'll even make it easy for you.
From Eve's own community page. https://community.eveonline.com/news...to-eve-online/
Their words. Not Mine. Free. To. Play. Take it or leave, done trying to convince you beyond this post.

Free to play, their words? Hmmm

Click link
Ctrl+F
"Free to play"
Phrase not found...

Edit: I went and checked Reddit as well, as some staff members post there quite a bit. None of them refer to it as F2P in their comment history. I'm not going to check the official forums as that would take much longer, but I really don't think CCP has referred to the changes as 'going F2P' or anything similar.