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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Who said anything about instant gratification when I literally said "if I want to grind to 60 on mobs". That's not instant....

    ALL mmos revolve around story, ALL mmos have a story and design content around said story. Only this one forces you to do it, mmos don't behave the same way single player rpgs do.

    This game is extremely single player. A good chunk of the story quests you can't even do with someone else because it's instanced content. They need to move away from this design and make it more like an actual mmo.
    Why wouldn't it force you to, that is what it SHOULD do, why on earth should everyone have access to everything the moment they are plopped in the game, yea just throw a fresh character in HW area, with no idea why they are there, this is an RPG, you SHOULD be required to deal with a story, otherwise, why are you here?

    I wouldn't start playing street fighter because i want to go through story mode and master it, i play it if i want to FIGHT others, because it's a FIGHTING game. just like RPGs, MMO or not, are STORY drivin games, You just have to deal with it. if you don't like stories that much, then these type of games are not for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Why wouldn't it force you to, that is what it SHOULD do
    It should? According to who? How many MMOs are out there that FORCES you to do story quests? Even the biggest MMO in history doesn't force you to do story quest. So if we're going off the other games on the market, uh, no it shouldn't. Not to mention why does it even matter if a player doesn't want to do story quests? When the ones that don't care for the story, don't pay attention to it. As long as a sub get's paid who cares?
    just like RPGs, MMO or not, are STORY drivin games
    Again, all mmos have story and all mmos design content and bosses around said story. Only this one forces you to do it, which probably has something to do with the high number of accounts created but the low sub number. >.> And you keep arguing this "instant gratification" mess, I don't know if you can't read or if you just like arguing points no one made. My point is MSQs should not be FORCED if someone wants to GRIND to 60, let them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You can grind on mobs, it's called FATEs. But the level is just not the only requirement and it's jutified by the lore.
    Fates are not mob grinding, it's not the same as getting a party, going to x spot and grinding mobs without having to wait for one to pop. Just face it, not everyone that plays an MMO (which is what this is) gives a crap about lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Just face it, not everyone that plays an MMO (which is what this is) gives a crap about lore.
    You can't tell him that or no one else. He is just going against you and minces up words for the hell of it.
    I just want the fetch quest and MSQ to be cut a bit and let new players have more fun than to slodge through boring text and going from point A to B
    over and over until they just quit from boredom.
    2.0 is just so terribly boring...At least HW is a way more engaging. I didn't give a crap about the Scions.
    The only time it got good for me was at 40 with the whole kidnapping thing.
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    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    You can't tell him that or no one else.
    I just don't understand it though D: If a bunch of hardcores came saying "You need to be like us" they'd loose their mind. People play MMOs for so many different reasons.

    2.0 was very boring, which is why I stopped paying attention to the MSQ. I had every attention to get into the lore here, but like many other MMOs out there it was just boring.
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