Why samurai is much more possible as a dps than you think

[Dualgunner]

Love Kenshin! Ironically Aoshi's actually a Ninja in the movie/manga though lol. But yes, dual-blade schools tend to focus more on speed and parrying whereby single-blade schools will be more power focus instead.

I was actually trying to find the anime scene, where Kenshin explains to the audience why a wakizashi makes Aoshi virtually untouchable compared to Kenshin. I was quite pleased to find this movie, any idea where I can watch it?

Also yeah, I did kind of forget the shinsengumi were ninjas not samurai x3 Still of note in that clip, Kenshin was speeding all over the place trying to hit Aoshi from anywhere, including the back. And whats more Aoshi anticipated a tactic like that enough to guard against it, I found that kind of fun But still the choreography was top notch, and I loved the filmwork there!

[Reynhart]

I was actually trying to find the anime scene, where Kenshin explains to the audience why a wakizashi makes Aoshi virtually untouchable compared to Kenshin. I was quite pleased to find this movie, any idea where I can watch it?

Except that Aoshi don't use Wakizashis, but Kodachis. And it would make it closer to what Ninjas use in FFXIV...and in FFXI, where they were made a tank in the end

[Dualgunner]

Except that Aoshi don't use Wakizashis, but Kodachis. And it would make it closer to what Ninjas use in FFXIV...and in FFXI, where they were made a tank in the end

Ah, you're right x3 It's been a while since I watched the anime sadly, I'm gonna give the movie a watch once I save up $70 for the Blu-Ray set. Also interesting to note is Aoshi was technically a ninja not a samurai x3 NIN tank ftw

For what it's worth, a 'melee healer' who did its job by running around and splinting broken bones or stitching wounds would be really cool. Not as a samurai, but as a concept in general.

My problem with melee healers...go heal briny mirror in Leviathan and then come back and say how cool melee healing is D: The healer would also need to be able to eat cleaves somehow, and also fast enough to hit other party members who need heals. In solo healing content they'd either be brokenly fast, brokenly durable, or brokenly useless as I can see :<

[Legion88]

My problem with melee healers...go heal briny mirror in Leviathan and then come back and say how cool melee healing is D: The healer would also need to be able to eat cleaves somehow, and also fast enough to hit other party members who need heals. In solo healing content they'd either be brokenly fast, brokenly durable, or brokenly useless as I can see :<

Melee healers don't heal in melee, just their ressource generating/Regeneration or damage skills would be melee. Heals would mostly work like all other heals.

[Dualgunner]

Melee healers don't heal in melee, just their ressource generating/Regeneration or damage skills would be melee. Heals would mostly work like all other heals.

So it's a melee dps with healer spells?

It...sounds like a gimmicky white mage as described :<

[Legion88]

So it's a melee dps with healer spells?

It...sounds like a gimmicky white mage as described :<

If you take it like that we have 3 caster dps with healer spells and 1 of them has a light focus on support abilities in addition. So exciting...
And for SCH the term "caster dps with healer spells/abilities" is like his definition...

[Reynhart]

The healer would also need to be able to eat cleaves somehow

Why ? Do MNK, DRG and NIN eat cleaves ? Being in melee range doesn't require you to be in front of the boss. It just means you'll have some weapon skills that will help you builds healing power or ressources that you'll spend to heal the party.
As for fast healing, if it uses TP instead of MP, we might assume that all those heals would be instant.

[Dualgunner]

Why ? Do MNK, DRG and NIN eat cleaves ? Being in melee range doesn't require you to be in front of the boss. It just means you'll have some weapon skills that will help you builds healing power or ressources that you'll spend to heal the party.
As for fast healing, if it uses TP instead of MP, we might assume that all those heals would be instant.

MNK, NIN, and DRG don't need to heal the main tank, and taken literally a melee healer would need to be in melee range of the MT to heal the MT. EDIT: Yes, if they can cast spells at range anyway, and they just use melee attacks to generate resources etc, I have trouble figuring out the balance because then you'd have a healer that HAS to dps, something no current healer HAS to do outside of the meta.

To both you and Legion, perhaps I don't have a good understanding of it because I just can't envision it. If they do it and it works, great, I'd love the change in healing pace just like I'd love to see Blue Mage Tank.

[ADVSS]

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To both you and Legion, perhaps I don't have a good understanding of it because I just can't envision it. If they do it and it works, great, I'd love the change in healing pace just like I'd love to see Blue Mage Tank.

skills like lustrate and indomitibility as an example, they could use much more instant cures on short cooldowns to offset the heavy movement of melee, as well as maybe having a synastry type drain move that instead of bloodbath it gives hp to the tank for each hit dealt? Maybe lessen the requirement to dps as its forte but being something of a strength(to compete with sch)
At least thats how id gather it working out barebones, maybe i misunderstood the idea

[Reynhart]

MNK, NIN, and DRG don't need to heal the main tank, and taken literally a melee healer would need to be in melee range of the MT to heal the MT. EDIT: Yes, if they can cast spells at range anyway, and they just use melee attacks to generate resources etc, I have trouble figuring out the balance because then you'd have a healer that HAS to dps, something no current healer HAS to do outside of the meta.

I've tried to find a good video of DNC's gameplay in FFXI, but couldn't. Basically, DNC was a melee job, gaining TP for each auto-attacks. Those TP were used to :
- Use long duration dance to put leech on the target (Hitting the target gives back HP or MP)
- Use instant cast healing dances (Single and AoE heal, curing status ailments)
- Use debuffing skills (Defense down, Evasion down, etc...)

On top of that, a successful debuffing skill would give "Finishing moves" (5 maximum), and these finishing moves could in turn be used to launch other type of skills (Gravity, Stun, Provoke, attack boost, convert back to TP, etc...)

Of course, with how TP works in XIV, the focus should be more on building "Finishing moves" with combos and spending those moves to increase their healings skills.

Do people seriously want Highlander Samurai?

Would Highlander samurais get stronger by decapitating their opponents until there can be only one ?