What's your daily routine playing gathering and crafting?

[Ostwar]

As for the new patch 3.4, many of the i250 gears need mats that are only traded with Lores... this is a bummer for me cause I have no lores if I stay away from the dungeon. It is sad for me to see that Desynz has been down prioritized by SE so I cannot desynz those new mats either.

You can do daily Vanu Vanu quests as they now give Lore! I can get 90 Lore from 6 quests in about 20 minutes and they are not hard if you are in decent lvl 60 gear

[Neela]

RMT and selling clears.

easiest answer right?... i play since more than 2 years and haven't any gatherer/crafter myself - but money flows anyway mostly of my 8 retainers and oh... you avoid primals huh? your bad... aside from my retainers i got the 2nd most amount out of them – and ironically guess which money it is? yeah right it's yours, the crafter ones.

but yeah everybody without crafter jobs is messing with the darkside – come on guys there is more than just black & white ^^

[ChameleonMS]

easiest answer right?

Yes it is the easy answer because it is frequently true. I personally know many DoW/DoM only players that do these things for large infusions to their revenue generation.

... i play since more than 2 years and haven't any gatherer/crafter myself - but money flows anyway mostly of my 8 retainers

DoW Gil Guide
That guide does not even cover Aquopolis, which is a fantastic source of potential revenue and materia, and several other sources of newer revenue.

and oh... you avoid primals huh? your bad...

A personal attack, [em]sigh[/em]. I do not do them because I am a casual player with RL commitments preventing me from ever being more hardcore. Try getting in to a learning party 3 weeks after content released. Why 3 weeks, well it takes me almost that long usually just to complete all the new content; normal difficulty for each patch. Those learning party collapse like there is no tomorrow, this leads to poor game play enjoyment. I cannot join a static due to the aforementioned RL commitments.

but yeah everybody without crafter jobs is messing with the darkside – come on guys there is more than just black & white ^^

No not everyone but if you do not have crafter/gatherers and you are rich and you do not dabble in the darkside. Then you are in a pretty exclusive group of players.

As a crafter, I can, when I commit to it, I can earn a couple million in a few hours. Only a very lucky/dedicated DoW could do the same.

[Neela]

hmm i covered myself behind the RL-argument for a long time too... actually i work in an ad agency and have 60-80 hours of work per week so i got your point. but taking this as an excuse for avoiding content others make money with is a bit uhm...u know? i could say i avoid crafter/gatherer cause of the exact same reason you don't do trials: i have to prio things up cause of less time. i know there is an amount of people who buy things with r-money, like in every other mmo but generalize this on all players without crafter cls' is just stupid. o.O'

[FinaSel]

but money flows anyway mostly of my 8 retainers

8 retainers?

I know that this is a luxury for some people, but others prefer not to spend real money in order to make money in the game.

[Neela]

well there are some reasons for this... first of all like i said before i don't have time for crafting or time bounded gathering spots, second im fc leader so 2-3 retainer are just for fc stuff (furniture, airship/company project stuff) and rewards/gifts for my members. although i have a good paying job RMT isn't an option for me so... taking the optional retainer is my way to go for increasing my ingame-income ^^

[Roth_Trailfinder]

8 retainers?

I know that this is a luxury for some people, but others prefer not to spend real money in order to make money in the game.

This is why I consider the rental retainers "Pay to Win".

[Neela]

This is why I consider the rental retainers "Pay to Win".

And here we go i just waited for someone like you ^^

[ChameleonMS]

And here we go i just waited for someone like you ^^

I see a bridge dweller.

[Silverbane]

This is why I consider the rental retainers "Pay to Win".

To win what? A big pile of make-believe money? Heck, you can print out a billion-gil bank note on your printer, or draw one with a crayon. Doesn't seem like much of a win.

The only "win" in FFXIV is enjoying yourself while playing it.