Main Scenario Restriction Bloodstorm - Very Very Bad idea.

[AlexionSkylark]

Catering to the niche who wants everyone to do the MSQ is not conductive to the long-term health of this game. Bringing in more players and making sure they have fun from the get-go is.

Case in point, World of Warcraft - There you have it, living proof that trying to cater to a mainstream audience is not the best way to go about for a MMO. And while WoW declines and declines, FFXIV with its strong focus on the dev vision keeps getting stronger and stronger.

In the end, the type of player that won'y play FFXIV because of it's MSQ requirement is not the type of player who is wanted in the community - And that's not a bad thing. Commiting to a niche (albeit a reasonably large one) brings more success than trying to make everyone happy.

This SAME discussion ocurred regarding HSW - The game stick to the gating and players keep flocking in. Maybe not the trigger-happy happy-go-killing WoW crowd, but well... who needs them?

[alimdia]

Hey, it's not even me saying, it's Yoshida-san himself!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...otivation_and/

You are twisting Yoshida's words, the context is people getting burned out, he never said "only sub for the story and leave after", if the story was the only good thing of this game they wouldn't invest so many resources in the 95% of non story content that covers the patch notes. He doesn't want people getting burned out from doing the same content over and over for the 3 to 4 months between major patches because that means a permanent loss of a player in the long term.

Case in point, World of Warcraft - There you have it, living proof that trying to cater to a mainstream audience is not the best way to go about for a MMO. And while WoW declines and declines, FFXIV with its strong focus on the dev vision keeps getting stronger and stronger.

Are you talking about the moss successful MMORPG in history? And the MMORPG that still has the highest playerbase?

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Case in point, World of Warcraft - There you have it, living proof that trying to cater to a mainstream audience is not the best way to go about for a MMO. And while WoW declines and declines, FFXIV with its strong focus on the dev vision keeps getting stronger and stronger.

In the end, the type of player that won'y play FFXIV because of it's MSQ requirement is not the type of player who is wanted in the community - And that's not a bad thing

WoW, the MMO that even now, has several million active subscribers, who's expansion has been heralded by many of its player base as one of the best ones in the past few releases? I think Blizzard is laughing at your statement as they roll around in their vault filled with solid gold coins and jewels while wearing their suits made from $100 bills.

and that's a pretty ridiculous statement, honestly. Any player should be welcome in FF14's community, as that's more players to do content with, potentially more friends to socialize with, more people to populate the more dead servers, more people funding the future success of this game.

Square is a business. They want to make the most money. Intentionally shunning potential players is a stupid move.

[Zojha]

And while WoW declines and declines, FFXIV with its strong focus on the dev vision keeps getting stronger and stronger.

Uh-huh. So far, each and every unofficial data sample would go against that claim - those show a small, but continuous decline.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-deyjtfLXZZenFtcDVPNFZCaEk/view
https://ffxivcensus.com/
Official numbers, naturally, are unavailable.

League of Legends was released late 2009. From 2011 (cataclysm) onward, WoW bled 2 million subs each expansion.
http://download.gamezone.com/uploads...scriptions.png
Incidentally, that's also when League of Legends gained massive traction.
https://cdn.mmos.com/wp-content/gall...rket-chart.jpg

Coincidence? Or did people simply leave WoW for an even more accessible game?

[Evergrey]

Uh-huh. So far, each and every unofficial data sample would go against that claim - those show a small, but continuous decline.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-d...VPNFZCaEk/view
https://ffxivcensus.com/
Official numbers, naturally, are unavailable.

League of Legends was released late 2009. From 2011 (cataclysm) onward, WoW bled 2 million subs each expansion.
http://download.gamezone.com/uploads...scriptions.png
Incidentally, that's also when League of Legends gained massive traction.
https://cdn.mmos.com/wp-content/gall...rket-chart.jpg

Coincidence? Or did people simply leave WoW for an even more accessible game?

I didn't know League of Legends was an MMORPG where you run around and do quests and stuff.
Alot of people that play LoL and similar games do so because they aren't as time consuming. You enter a game and soon after it's over and you can either start a new one or just leave it there for the day.

[Zojha]

Alot of people that LoL and simiare games because they aren't as time consuming.

Precisely. Jackpot. These games have gained massive traction because they forego things such as pre-quests and timesinks in the form of fetch quests or expansive gear grinds.
If you are arguing that WoW is losing players because they are catering to "mainstream" players, I think it should be noted that they are most likely losing players to a game that is just plain "better" at catering to these players. That is all.

[Evergrey]

But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later. It's meant to take time.
If people want to play those kind of games then there are plenty of them out there. Don't come here and try and change something that isn't broken just because you find it boring.
There are plenty of games on the market just for that reason. A game might not appeal to some, but there are plenty more to choose from. Everything can't fit like a glove.

[alimdia]

But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later. It's meant to take time.
If people want to play those kind of games then there are plenty of them out there. Don't come here and try and change something that isn't broken just because you find it boring.
There are plenty of games on the market just for that reason. A game might not appeal to some, but there are plenty more to choose from. Everything can't fit like a glove.

One thing is what you think FFXIV is meant to be and another what the devs think FFXIV is meant to be, seeing how they already confirmed you won't need HW MSQ for this seems like you were already proven wrong. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909

[bass9020]

One thing is what you think FFXIV is meant to be and another what the devs think FFXIV is meant to be, seeing how they already confirmed you won't need HW MSQ for this seems like you were already proven wrong. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909

That is from 2015. He did many recent interviews and said he wants people to enjoy the story as it continues but other features such as jobs won't be locked behind the MSQs.

[Lewtskie]

But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later. It's meant to take time.

Actually, it is. Yoshi has explained it himself time and again. Overlooking the flaw of the player queue, the concept of this game is that those with limited schedules can find fulfillment within 2-3 hours playtime a day on average. Palace, Ex Trials, Duty Roullette, it all exists within supplementary form that you can throw yourself into it and make progress. Whether by a little or a lot, it's stupid easy to cap tomes for the week not even doing all your roulettes, or gathering tokens to turn in for your primal weapon, doing last turn of alex for the weekly, the weekly drops of 24-mans, even running Palace or Aqua a couple times for the night, making money or getting a weapon. And that's just battle content. I've easily leveled a crafting class doing moogle dailies, and a gatherer doing GC turn ins.

Someone who has only so much time on their hands can easily manage a play schedule to get the most out of every hour they have.