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  1. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    Seems like your FC is trying to just do end game stuff. Why do you not help your new players?
    most of the MSQ can't be helped, you just sit around waiting for them to do the fetch quests until they get to the next trial. even worse you wait for them to grind XP until they have the level required to enter the next dungeon/trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemius View Post
    This is not a single player FF game. Some. People. Do. Not. Play. For. The. Story.

    MMOs bring all types of players, not just fans of the franchise. To have a healthy MMO you have to cater somewhat to people outside the FF fandom.
    I get that but why come on a game with such a long story knowing you'll have to go through it if, by essence, you don't play for the story ? It's like going on a PvP where you have to be ganked during 60 lvl to access high lvl content game and say you don't like PvP ^^"
    Plus, you can skip all the cutscenes, even the 30min long if you really don't want to waste your time watching them ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Sometimes I think XIV would of been better off if 1.0 had been successful as most the people that I know of flocked to 1.0 as a fan of XI and not just general MMO players that could care less if it a FF (story driven) title .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemius View Post
    This is not a single player FF game. Some. People. Do. Not. Play. For. The. Story.
    Then these people are on the wrong game, it's like saying you go to the swimming pool, and just sit there next to the water, Sure you can do that, and it's not all that odd, but people are going to wonder why you came there to begin with if you did not come to do what was intended. Oddly enough these are also the same type of people who cry that they can't skip all the MSQ and get straight to end game. and then quit because it's "to much work"

    There is a reason this is classified as a "Role playing game"
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    better solution than a skip potion would be to make it so it is actually possible to co-op or group up with friends to help them complete old/main-scenario content.

    THE biggest problem with friends/FC members getting bogged down in the old storyline content and quitting is they are forced to do it all alone and it's not possible to group up and help out with the more time-consuming fetch quests and explore the red circles missions.
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  6. #216
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    Honestly, I was hoping they would restrict the new expansion areas behind MSQ again, even though they said they wouldnt for this next one.
    Why would you come to an story driven mmo just to skip everything on the way and have absolutely no idea what is even happening around you in the world or the characters you interact with?

    Sure it is boring if you want to bring friends into the game you enjoy playing for them not being able to play through the content the same time as you, but dont you also want them to experience everything that you have up until now aswell?
    My suggestion is get them involved into the game before the expansion come out so they can enjoy and not rush through the story.

    That being said I am also against the "Jump Potion" even if I understand the reason behind having one, but my reason for not wanting it is that; I am getting tired of meeting people in DF / PF on lv 50-60 that keeps saying "I pay my sub, I play how I want, Dont tell me what to do, How to play my game, Dont give out advice even though you got PvE Mentor status on, Who are you to judge my rotation that I click in my own made up order, No I dont want to read tool tips on my skills, Foe's Requiem lowers my own damage"

    Maybe a little over the top but yes, I have met everyone of those and then some in my playtime since the 1.0 days and I dont want the Jump Potion to encourage more lazy attitude and quick-reward mindset, I feel that will ruin the game in the longrun more than helping.
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    Last edited by YakushiHinata; 10-18-2016 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Sometimes I think XIV would of been better off if 1.0 had been successful as most the people that I know of flocked to 1.0 as a fan of XI and not just general MMO players that could care less if it a FF (story driven) title .
    This is how i feel after reading every thread with people trying to change things or complain about something being to "FF". Grinds my gears
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    ...
    WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THAT IN HEAVENSWARD...





    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Sometimes I think XIV would of been better off if 1.0 had been successful as most the people that I know of flocked to 1.0 as a fan of XI and not just general MMO players that could care less if it a FF (story driven) title .
    Actually, the biggest issue with FFXIV 1.0 is exactly that it was too much like XI, gameplay-wise. It felt like I was playing a next-gen version of XI, instead of another game. Its gameplay was VERY dated.
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 10-18-2016 at 01:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Then these people are on the wrong game, it's like saying you go to the swimming pool, and just sit there next to the water, Sure you can do that, and it's not all that odd, but people are going to wonder why you came there to begin with if you did not come to do what was intended. Oddly enough these are also the same type of people who cry that they can't skip all the MSQ and get straight to end game. and then quit because it's "to much work"

    There is a reason this is classified as a "Role playing game"
    Making niche games nowadays doesn't make you tons of money anymore. Just see at Wildstar and its attempt to gather the "hardcore raiders" back. Was a big success wasn't it?

    Regardless, if people go to the "swimming pool" and "sit there next to the water", it's none of your concern: they paid to sit in that swimming pool and that's how they want to spend their money, and all they (the company who knows the pool) only care about their money.

    It's the same here, however the difference is that before swimming you have to do some mandatory training, have a swimming license, sign some papers, read a book about diving and THEN you can finally dive in.
    Suffice to say if I had to do all that stuff just to go to a swimming pool I would go to the beach...but then they (the company) will lose money, and that's bad no matter what angle you see it because it will make the price of tickets raise, they'll no longer offer free stuff at the bar and you'll eventually have to pay for your own swimsuits!

    What I'm trying to say is, the more they gate the new players, the more it'll cost on US the current players to keep the game running by making more free stuff locked behind a paywall. Not even WoW does this...

    Also...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    There is a reason this is classified as a "Massive Multiplayer Online Role playing game"
    Corrected that for you, mostly because the driving force of an MMORPG isn't story alone. I mean as someone said to me regarding why 1.0 failed:

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    - cumbersome UI
    - need an PC over average to run it
    - no endgame (after reaching lv 50 you started the next class to have something to do)
    - Leves (8 every 36 hours) and Behest (evey 30 minutes) the only way to level up
    - Only a handfull MSQ quests (every 3-5 levels only 1 quest) and no sidequests
    - worse market (a room full with retainers and no search system, good luck to find what you want)
    In other words, story alone didn't make 1.0 worth its price tag because the gameplay was trash beyond belief, or else the game wouldn't shut down.
    Story is important yes, but alone it won't make the game go further. And 1.0 is a good reminder of that no matter how good, how famous and how story driven your franchise is, a crappy game with good story remains a crappy game.
    And even then most people I knew told me that it sucked too, but I can't tell.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 10-18-2016 at 01:08 AM.

  10. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Then these people are on the wrong game, it's like saying you go to the swimming pool, and just sit there next to the water, Sure you can do that, and it's not all that odd, but people are going to wonder why you came there to begin with if you did not come to do what was intended.
    i don't wonder at all, lots of people just go there to tan, don't be so judgemental. if those people are going to keep paying their sub and buy expansions, they are not playing the wrong game. farming mounts matter to them, buying a house, getting a fish tank and completing the orchestration list matters to them, the storyline doesn't. i know multiple people like that who log in every day.
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