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    I feel your asking opposite things. Progression and Accepting are essentially oxymorons of one another.

    To be a top raiding guild, being one of the firsts to push new content you must make exceptions. Have a awesome dps that is a bit of a racist ? You got to deal with it. Got the most amazing person in the world that sucks at the game and cant improve ? No choice but to kick them. Sure you can easily find a raiding group that is pleasant, but it certainly will not be progression.

    As for our server name. I run a FC with large LGBT population and they unanimously told me that they really like the name Faerie and they feel that many LGBT community members are attracted to the name. I played on Faerie for 3 years now and your actually first person I heard express disapproval to the name. I am not saying your wrong, but I do feel you may be in the minority of that sentiment among the LGBT community.

    Either way be you make your own FC or join one, I hope you find acceptance in whatever you do. Faerie is a incredibly friendly and welcoming place and I hope you can call it home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liselsia View Post
    [...] To be a top raiding guild, being one of the firsts to push new content you must make exceptions. Have a awesome dps that is a bit of a racist ? You got to deal with it. Got the most amazing person in the world that sucks at the game and cant improve ? No choice but to kick them. Sure you cant easily find a raiding group that is pleasant, but it certainly will not be progression.
    Mostly accurate, and nice to see someone else recognize this - though it partly depends on what you mean by "progression". If you want to be among The Best at raiding and get stuff done early on, you'll inevitably have to prioritize gamin' skillz over basic decency. 'Course, that doesn't mean you can't progress at all without that approach; it's plenty possible to get content down before it gets trivialized and keep your [expletive] count low. It's just a hell of an uphill battle, and it will of course slow you down significantly.
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    True Yagi, though I can say from personal experience that I agree with your "uphill battle" metaphor. A little while ago it became more and more apparent that my raid group, made up of close friends both IRL and ingame, had many different skill levels. It was to the point where a couple people just couldn't cut it and were holding us back. Rather than kick those people, I couldn't take the stress of breaking a group of friends apart and threw in the towel. I think in every raid leader's life there comes a point when you have to choose between progression and friends because even if most your friends have a high amount of skills, not all of them will. But hey, Faerie is a diverse place that has both the raid environment AND the friend one, it's just that the two are normally exclusive of one another.
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    Which is great that we have both Free Companies and Linkshells You can have all your friends in one, and your static in another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liselsia View Post
    I feel your asking opposite things. Progression and Accepting are essentially oxymorons of one another.

    To be a top raiding guild, being one of the firsts to push new content you must make exceptions. Have a awesome dps that is a bit of a racist ? You got to deal with it. Got the most amazing person in the world that sucks at the game and cant improve ? No choice but to kick them. Sure you can easily find a raiding group that is pleasant, but it certainly will not be progression.
    Enjoy the game? Progression without enjoyment...no pleasantness in that? I don't really want to experience new content with a group like you're describing. Simple really.
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    "When the wind creates a gentle breeze near the Conjurer's Guild in Old Gridania, I can almost hear the whisper of A-Towa-Cant." - Alexys Kitty

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexysKitty View Post
    Enjoy the game? Progression without enjoyment...no pleasantness in that? I don't really want to experience new content with a group like you're describing. Simple really.
    As Raina suggested, it simply sounds like a different in definition of Progression. My personal view on progression is a static group clears content with regularity in the same patch cycle content was released in. So most Progression group who are doing Creator Savage should clear all the content before 2.5 hits. If not thats perfectly fine, there plenty of casual raiding group that take their time and prioritize fun and group stability over clears. But personally I would never consider them Progression groups.
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    In my personal experience, a progression group doesn't necessarily have a toxic mentality. However, eventually there will come a point where some members aren't performing as well as others. "Raid with your friends!" is tough because what happens when one or two friends lag behind the others and hold the group back? Well, then you have to make the choice between progression and friends, otherwise your raid group will turn against those members anyway. They may say "naw it's okay replace me" but it's not okay. They're upset that you chose the game over them. Four months ago or so, there came a point when I had to make the same decision. I chose friendship and haven't regretted it since.
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    The Post Below Does Not Contain Rant - It's Observed by Several Gamers

    In my point of view, I would choose life over friends or people who want to change me so much that I don't recognize anything beneficial...whether that be in-game or anywhere in the world. The difference between gaming and life is that I can choose to power off after logging off, and living is still so much more boring, and more threatening. (Insert spiel about knowing life.) I'm not the friend type with this game. That ended after the heap of veteran gamers spewed useless Tank ideals with an FC cushion. I don't like mental connections. I do enjoy non-ordinary gaming. I know I'm avoided and influenced daily because my ideals are not the ideals wanted, and my ideals are not the worst. I don't need help improving and advancing my ideals. The unyielding force of thought that a Tank must tank in a certain location because the best gamer wrote so is annoying especially when the person chatting isn't that gamer. To many people are doing that.
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    "When the wind creates a gentle breeze near the Conjurer's Guild in Old Gridania, I can almost hear the whisper of A-Towa-Cant." - Alexys Kitty

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    Metaphorically, let's live and become incapacitated a little, followed by a veteran gamer busting a forehead vein before typing the stupidity of my thought. Where is the MMO part of the RPG? Observe individually, calculate a little and form battle plans (and that is not written but somehow mysteriously happens). Then there are LGBTQI+ FC people encouraging a lack of problem solving skills, with a listen to me attitude, while supporting the gamer's ideal and FC people that likely can not name the author of one piece of information read. /casts Open The Gamer Eyes New content becomes old before the next update or expansion anyway, and Elysium is unrivaled, so what is the issue?
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    Last edited by AlexysKitty; 12-29-2016 at 12:33 PM. Reason: Sentence Context Change
    "When the wind creates a gentle breeze near the Conjurer's Guild in Old Gridania, I can almost hear the whisper of A-Towa-Cant." - Alexys Kitty

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    It sounds like you're at an impasse with us, but all I'll say is that your stereotyping of free companies who accept the LGBTQ community is both harmful and inaccurate. It's just so completely inaccurate that I'm not even going to touch it.
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