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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    They're basically going to do a "previously on Final Fantasy XIV" for those who skipped?
    It kinda sounds like that..they said some kinda digest haha..probably still a WIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Aurum Vale
    I know. My abundance of ? is from WHY. It is the first sense of minor difficulty a player gets in this game- something which is sorely lacking.
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  3. #73
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    They should just do a giant cutscene that sums up everything. But that cost production too and if you want it voice acted or not
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  4. #74
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    The responses here baffle me, people rather not have someone join the game than allowing them to tl;dr the main story.

    Do you realize that someone else skipping the story doesn't affect you in any way?
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    The responses here baffle me, people rather not have someone join the game than allowing them to tl;dr the main story.

    Do you realize that someone else skipping the story doesn't affect you in any way?
    You'd be amazed how awful it is playing the most recent content for experienced players with someone who's been playing the game for 30 minutes. It'd be reliving your worst dungeon experiences over and over for weeks.

    Does effect people because people interact in MMO's.

    Unless I am misinterpreting what you're saying as not starting out at 60 at the expansion, which case I also ask why? Story gets you there the fastest.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 10-17-2016 at 09:23 AM.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    The responses here baffle me, people rather not have someone join the game than allowing them to tl;dr the main story.

    Do you realize that someone else skipping the story doesn't affect you in any way?
    That's not true, you always get the people who were interested in the story, but were too lazy to do it, so they ask everyone around them for a TL;DR. It happens to me in wow all too often. Here it would be worse since spoilers are a much more touchy subject.
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  7. #77
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    You'd be amazed how awful it is playing the most recent content for experienced players with someone who's been playing the game for 30 minutes. It'd be reliving your worst dungeon experiences over and over for weeks.
    It's awful playing with the ones who have been here since launch, too. Your point? Good players will motivate themselves to look up info and learn how to play their role, no matter how many levels they get to skip. Bad players will still push whatever buttons they can reach the easiest while bubbling their bong and watching Cheech and Chong on Netflix, even if they've been running dungeons that precise way since launch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    That's not true, you always get the people who were interested in the story, but were too lazy to do it, so they ask everyone around them for a TL;DR. It happens to me in wow all too often. Here it would be worse since spoilers are a much more touchy subject.
    Since anecdotal evidence is apparently fact, I'll mention that I've never had anyone do this to me in World of Warcraft.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    What...Yoshida didn't say that. In fact he said the opposite, he said you won't need to do heavensward to play bloodstorm this time.

    Please, if you are going to say things post sources..there is no need to feed people false info, since plenty of people believe anything they read with 0 proof D:

    I actually DO have a source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909

    :P
    You need all the likes, I knew there was a source that would debunk what they said. Honestly, I think when it comes to 4.0, people just joining may have to do "Post-Dragonsong MSQ" to arrive at 4.0, which just started since that might be the best way to ease into 4.0.

    If you look at the MSQ completion list, the scenarios are split into 3 parts this time, Heavensward, Dragonsong and Post-Dragonsong. Odds are they will havea digest for HW-DS and then start you off at Post-Dragonsong but of course give you the ability to do all those quest at a later date if you wish. But since the cut off from DS and PDS is done ina good spot, it would be easy enough to have new players start at PDS and go from there.
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  9. #79
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    Skipping the main story is not the same as skipping to 70, that's a level up potion and that's a whole different topic (with a solution, already implemented by other games)

    The main story doesn't teach you anything about combat, you can kill all MSQ monsters by just spamming 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    That's not true, you always get the people who were interested in the story, but were too lazy to do it, so they ask everyone around them for a TL;DR. It happens to me in wow all too often. Here it would be worse since spoilers are a much more touchy subject.
    Then you can choose to not answer them, that's not a reason to wish someone didn't play this game, wishing for less new players is wishing that this game would die.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Skipping the main story is not the same as skipping to 70, that's a level up potion and that's a whole different topic (with a solution, already implemented by other games)

    The main story doesn't teach you anything about combat, you can kill all MSQ monsters by just spamming 1.
    Okay, but what does skipping story offer a player (Including losing out on the HUGE exp for someone who has no exp boosts) if they're barred from Expansion content anyways due to level?
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