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    PSA: Heal people when you raise someone

    I know I'm a jerk for this, but if you raise someone and don't heal them and they die to raid damage, and not from standing in stupid, but literally staying at 15% health because the healer wouldn't heal them, I will call you out on it and tell you that next time you need to heal them when you raise them.

    I feel like the hall of novice should tell you that when you raise someone, you NEED to heal them ASAP.
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    DPS at 15%hp, or Tank at 15% HP, massive AoE incomming and maybe tank buster right after... already waiting on the GCD to get a heal off most likely (otherwise chances are u wouldnt have died in the 1st place if instant heals were up)

    hmmmm which are we going to favor spending a GCD or two on...
    hmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    I know I'm a jerk for this, but if you raise someone and don't heal them and they die to raid damage, and not from standing in stupid, but literally staying at 15% health because the healer wouldn't heal them, I will call you out on it and tell you that next time you need to heal them when you raise them.

    I feel like the hall of novice should tell you that when you raise someone, you NEED to heal them ASAP.
    Yeaaaa, No. There can be plenty of reasons why a healer doesnt heal you up to 100% asap. One of these reasons can be you, accepting the raise just before raid wide aoe comming up. In the end, complaining about this is just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    Yeaaaa, No. There can be plenty of reasons why a healer doesnt heal you up to 100% asap. One of these reasons can be you, accepting the raise just before raid wide aoe comming up. In the end, complaining about this is just silly.
    10-15s is a LONG time to get a heal out. 5s? Fair enough. Tank dying? Fair enough.

    If you raise someone you need to be ready to get their health up, this might mean throwing a regen on the tank or throwing out an aoe heal in the time between the person accepting the raise and coming back to life.

    I'm talking about a situation where you get raised and have say 2050 HP left and after 10-15s go by you take 4000 raidwide damage and die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    DPS at 15%hp, or Tank at 15% HP, massive AoE incomming and maybe tank buster right after... already waiting on the GCD to get a heal off most likely (otherwise chances are u wouldnt have died in the 1st place if instant heals were up)

    hmmmm which are we going to favor spending a GCD or two on...
    hmmmm
    It's not really hard to get both if you know what you're doing and how to manage your instant heals.
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    On the other hand, I wish players would stay still when they take a raise, so that they can be healed before invulnerability wears off. Seriously, I've been seeing this a lot lately, especially in A12. I raise someone and immediately go to cast a heal on them, and they die before it goes off. Invulnerability is a thing, don't immediately start moving before we can get a heal off.

    Also, as stated above, if something else is more pressing and I don't have any instant casts up, it might be wiser to focus another target rather than the one who was just raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    It's not really hard to get both if you know what you're doing and how to manage your instant heals.
    Yeah, sure, it's extremely easy to deal with 3 Cintamani casts while you look out for mechanics and try to keep up MP management because the DPS can't stay alive. Yeeeeah, sure.

    Also, to be COMPLETELY honest, if you're a DPS you shouldn't be dying at all unless it's some extremely difficult content.
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    ITT: DD with chip on his shoulder from dying once complains endlessly about things he knows nothing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    ITT: DD with chip on his shoulder from dying once complains endlessly about things he knows nothing about.
    Actually I main scholar and I play ninja on the side.

    And no, I'm not a glorified DPs when I play scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Yeah, sure, it's extremely easy to deal with 3 Cintamani casts while you look out for mechanics and try to keep up MP management because the DPS can't stay alive. Yeeeeah, sure.

    Also, to be COMPLETELY honest, if you're a DPS you shouldn't be dying at all unless it's some extremely difficult content.
    In that kind of a situation I wouldn't get annoyed at you because a couple DPS died. I'm talking about something more simple like Alexander 12 where you wait 10-15s for a heal and then die to mega holy.
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