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  1. #351
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    I don't really understand why so many people here treat this game like it's a product to sell. Even yoshi himself seems to think so. They keep chanting "we need new players to keep up the servers!" as if they think that if you play long enough, your 15 dollars is now worth less than a new player's 15 dollars. I thought it would be a given that everyone sees this game as a "service as a business" and in service business, retention is number one but apparently I'm wrong. Almost everything they come up with focuses more on catering to new players than regulars and it just feels wrong.

    If they insist on treating this game as mainly something to sell to potential 'customers', I would rather them just start selling patches instead of a subscription system. Discount a patch once it gets outdated.
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  2. #352
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    Can we please kill this thread already.. :/
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Can we please kill this thread already.. :/
    even if a mod closes it , there always another kid , who feels his candy wasnt sweet enough :P
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    [...] and in service business, retention is number one but apparently I'm wrong.
    You aren't wrong - you aren't right either :P

    Retention becomes more important the less potential customers there are. That's not just in service business, but any business. If there's only one person buying your products, you want a really good relationship with him - high retention. That's your key account, he matters, keep him by any means necessary. If there are millions and millions behind that standing in line, building such relationships would just be a waste of time, you rather want a lot of brief meetings, especially if they're all worth the same. If somebody goes or stays doesn't really matter.

    What will happen if you go the latter route however is that eventually, you'll reach a point where you want to focus on retention more, because there aren't that many new people left. And that can be quite tricky. I'd say WoW is in that phase right now.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    I'm capable enough to understand business, and I'm fully aware of everything that fits in that folder.
    What I'm trying to say is, is the game really worth just going straight profit at the expence of killing the heart of the game to reach out to a customer group that are only here because this game is trending?
    That is why I feel let down and that Yoshi P is turning his back ont he community that beleived in his plea and how he went 360 on everyone by delivering something I think 1.0 players never really wanted?
    This is excluding everything else that I still consider is wrong with this game, mindless hamsterwheel grinding on repeat, big world maps that are pretty much empty, unpersonal envoirment where you don't feel like you belong in your server and spend more time afk at your house waiting for DF to pop than doing things etc etc
    In a word, yes. Bear in mind, Yoshi is limited by Square Enix. A good reason XIV has remained "sage" is likely because budget concerns do not allow for much experimentation. Say what you will about LoV or Diadem, but look at the state it left 3.1 in. They essentially had a patch cycle where Thordan EX was all most people bothered with. Investors couldn't care less about the "heart" of a game; only about its profit margin. And seeing Yoshi must answer to them, he cannot do whatever he wants. In fact, he's gone on report more than a few times of wanting to release an expansion every year or so. Nonetheless, you also have to consider what you may find a betrayal other people will not. Your opinion doesn't supersede theirs.
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  6. #356
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    Just look at Apple & those Japanese companies (Toshiba, SHARP,SONY),
    they are going downhill because they are focusing on profit not the product quality anymore

    A shortsighted president/director/developer will ultimately destroy Final Fantasy title & SE
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    Last edited by LiaShan; 10-15-2016 at 02:55 AM.

  7. #357
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    LiaShan: Atleast you are one of the few who gets it. Alot here would eat anything Yoshi P feeds them. How much you want to bet that the new DNC class is going to be a straight disaster? Like Ninja seems to have all THF abilities i wouldnt be surprised if DNC starts to cast magic LOL
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  8. #358
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    Then why keep looking forward to the game if you already determined it will fail?
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  9. #359
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    Miessaintborough: are you watching the stream right now? It is beyond a disappointment. Don't have too high expectations it will still be the same thing. LiaShan said profit will damage the quality
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    Last edited by FizzleofHyperion; 10-15-2016 at 04:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Can we please kill this thread already.. :/
    Share the sentiment it's completely pointless to continue debating, If ppl really need to vent their opinion this way, while berating anyone who don't agree with them they should open a blog
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