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    The only real "solution" to the cross-class skill issue would be to level-restrict cross-class skills. If you just give a high-level WHM all their cross-class skills, that gives them a major advantage over a level-appropriate WHM, which is not good. It doesn't make any sense, but sometimes games have to accept some weirdness due to gameplay mechanics.

    As for GC leves, they're solo leves. That's the point. It's no more "inconsistent" than the fact that some MSQ instances are solo (and don't allow use of a chocobo) and others use the duty finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    The only real "solution" to the cross-class skill issue would be to level-restrict cross-class skills.
    This is unnecessary, the restriction on the number of Cross skills imposed by level sync (or just being lower level) means you have to think strategically of which cross skills you want and what order they should be in. It's one of the only areas in the game where the player has freedom to do anything 'custom'. Don't take it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    This is unnecessary, the restriction on the number of Cross skills imposed by level sync (or just being lower level) means you have to think strategically of which cross skills you want and what order they should be in. It's one of the only areas in the game where the player has freedom to do anything 'custom'. Don't take it away.
    I'm sorry, I wasn't clear - I am in no way advocating for doing this. I was just pointing out that there is a solution to this inconsistency, but not one anyone would actually want. "Be careful what you wish for" and all that. I am very much in favor of this system as-is, even though I main WHM.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    I'm sorry, I wasn't clear - I am in no way advocating for doing this. I was just pointing out that there is a solution to this inconsistency, but not one anyone would actually want. "Be careful what you wish for" and all that. I am very much in favor of this system as-is, even though I main WHM.
    Coolness.

    As it happens I think that one issue with the skills in general is that the true dedicated healer CNJWHM has to wait so long to be able to cast raise in battle, but Arcanist gets that ability immediately they can resurrect. ...And following up on that my major bone to pick with cross skills is that I'm PLD, and one of my cross skills is raise. Superb except it's impossible to use during battle making as useful as a chocolate teapot. People say, oh but you can still raise after battle. Yeah, except it's not on my cross skills since I need those crossskill slots for things I can use in battle. So to use raise, I can either change to WHM and wait for the cooldown, or I can change my cross skills and wait for the cooldown. Guess which is easier.

    I'll also lob into that the fact that Summoners can resurrect in battle and have access to swiftcast.

    IMHO, CNJ shouldn't have to wait for a trait to allow battle raise, and PLD should be able to use raise in battle too, it's not like it's going to kill balance with that 6s cast time...ah, but that's a different discussion. Still it would be nice if all of the cross skills that people were able to choose from were actually useful.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    PLD should be able to use raise in battle too, it's not like it's going to kill balance with that 6s cast time
    PLD has infinite MP and a whole lot of spare time to cast Raise with it. Yes, it will kill balance.
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