Toasterman: Certain things can be introduced intot his game that dont always have to be part of this vertical garbage we are receiving. Someone mentioned that SE seems lazy and are going with it the whole if it aint broke don't fix it mentality. The problem is something is broke or else we wouldnt be here discussing the situation. I really hope that change happens way before the damage is actually done. Horizontal progression doesnt even have to be in ilvl based gears. It can be in certain dungeons that regardless of your ilvl you will always sync down to an according ilvl thats meant for these specific x amount of dungeons. They can be its own storyline or even dungeons that give glamour pieces that no one else can acheive if they themselves put the same time effort and learning into things like everyone else.
By this i don't mean the traditional handouts people are expecting either but in order to have these nice things you have to work for them.
The relic chapter could have been one of them btw if Yoshi P didnt decide to pamper some so called casual because they feel they are entitled to everything just because they pay for subscription.
The damage here is slightly done but can be repaired it is not too late for that.
Third relic chapter can be that you must have acheived both a zeta and an anima to continue no exceptions no handouts no nothing do it like everyone else.
Want something the same ilvl? Then use whatever current tomes allow or have someone craft something.
Not everything must be given out to you just because you are subscribing.
The current unbalanced state of the game is shredding the community apart. Our biggest problem is the current generation of so called mmorpg players that seem to just be lazy.
Another problem is sadly the whole WoW generation that also is destroying our wonderful community.
People from WoW who started there as teenagers who now are in their early/late twenties that joined FFXIV because they are so tired of WoW but are playing FFXIV because it reminds them so much of WoW <-- Thoese players.
They are slightly part of the problem because they don't know anything else outside of WoW and assume thats how ALL MMORPGs are.
I've seen discussions on different forums, facebook,reddit etc the younger generations arguement is always "thats how all mmorpgs are" we all know that is not true.
Why present something that people are already accustomed too?
The socalled newer generation could have used some horizontal progression in their lives imo.
I'm not sure if this discussion will lead anywhere honestly. Yoshi P has turned back on his community that backed him up the most and from day one imo. Remember thoese slogans from a while back to always have fun and the fans come first?
Fans did not come first business did
The fun is now a chore, a repetative chore that gets useless really fast.
4.0 will determin alot if this game will continue with a bright future or be like any mmorpg out there.