Fan Fest announcements will determine my future in this game..

[Fernosaur]

Or would it?

Fairness should be giving everyone equal opportunity, not giving everyone equal outcomes regardless of the effort put into whatever is being judged. The model FFXIV follows right now basically gives everyone equal outcomes, regardless of if they spend time with tomes or go raiding. In the end, the gear you get is only different by small margins that matter only in the sense of small DPS increases: something that the entire PvE scene universally revolves around.

I think it's good that they want to make the game inclusive for everyone, but it discourages people who have the time and the motivation to play more and delve deeper into this wonderful game, only to be entirely disappointed by how everything is just a remasked, slight variation of whatever else. If there were things in the overworld like actually difficult solo or party quests, NMs like those in FFXI, heck, even field super bosses like the Terrasque FATE that were good for different horizontal progression instead of just being "some XP" the game would be much more interesting.

I enjoy this game a lot, but it's not because of how the game is designed, and much more because I finally found a group of friends to raid Savage with. Before I found the group I was finding myself logging in to... do nothing. Because there was no horizontal progression. Ever. It's all linearly vertical: doing chores to get the same gear everyone else gets, to get the same stats everyone else gets, and to have the same playstyle everyone else has. Most of which won't matter because in 2 patches time you'll get rid of everything and rinse repeat. This is just crap design. Even among different classes things are largely the same. BRD and MCH have their difference, but in concept they are basically the same class. Most melee DPS have this problem too, and save for SCH, tanks and healers suffer from this as well.

It's kinda sad that horizontality is not even a remote, possible idea in this game, but regardless, I have accepted this, imo, awful flaws and have decided to stick around as long as I have a group with whom I can fool around and have fun tackling the very few challenges the game has to offer, even if the reward is entirely pointless.

[Yasuhiro]

I would also add if you plan to just try and make dumb shots at me, you are more than welcome to PM them to me so I can ignore them there. Keep the discussion on fan fest and the games future please.

This forum is infamous for being white knight central if you dare say you want things to improve or even bring up some aspects of this game kinda suck. The first reply to this thread is evident of that. You didn't mention FFXI so you wont get your head bit off just yet.

[Sparktacus]

You might as well quit now and wait till 5.0 because none of those 5 points will happen in 4.0. In the more recent gamescom interview, Yoshida already stated that 4.0 will follow very closely to 3.0 with minor changes (which your bullets aren't). I'm in favor for all of those points as well, but honestly its not gonna happen. Fanfest will just show off the jobs, little hints on the story, and more hit/miss content probably similar to diadem/palace of the dead. It would be nice if set bonuses started up again since they were in 2.0 GC stuff. Even if its just a boost to secondary stats, it would be progress.

I missed this interview but that is sad to read. He also said 4.0 will be bringing "something new and never seen before" so its anyone's guess what that could mean. And we also know that jobs are being pruned and simplified.

[RyuSaarva]

This forum is infamous for being white knight central if you dare say you want things to improve or even bring up some aspects of this game kinda suck. The first reply to this thread is evident of that. You didn't mention FFXI so you wont get your head bit off just yet.

All I see here is people complaining and whining about things I am ok with, it has nothing to do about fan boy defending random people you have never seen or whatever you wanna call that.

[Chiramu]

And we also know that jobs are being pruned and simplified.

This could go very well or very poorly. If they are just pruning to make it easier without thinking of the class fantasy I think it will not be good. Improving the class fantasy is better for FFXIV then direct ability pruning; taking some of the abilities away will be good, but I would still love to see the classes really make you feel amazing!

[Airget]

This could go very well or very poorly. If they are just pruning to make it easier without thinking of the class fantasy I think it will not be good. Improving the class fantasy is better for FFXIV then direct ability pruning; taking some of the abilities away will be good, but I would still love to see the classes really make you feel amazing!

Hopefully it means each job will regain it's identity, since I do see the issue that to an extent each job does play the same way it's just a different coat of paint. NIN is to focused on combos not enough focus on ninjutsu, DRG's gained a MNK like buff that they need to upkeep to keep their damage potency off rather than add support/enhance their abilities around jump, BRD/MCH are pretty much the same job with slight variations, BRD using DOTs to earn reactive abilities while MCH has ammo and RNG to get their "combo".

The obvious thing is they don't want to go from A(2.0) to AB(3.0) to ABC in 4.0, since that would definitely just make things way to complicated so they do have to pull back and add in more abilities without just making them a forced necessity in a rotation. With that said though I'm really hoping that they will give NIN more jutsu flexibility since while I do enjoy the speed at which I can pull off my melee combo, I was dissapointed with how 3.0 brought nothing to the table for jutsu support, only a cheap combo ability that would help keep the upkeep for Huton buff.

[Starkbeaumont]

getting more info than just "hey, or new expac is called Alphinaid goes on holidays and we aim to release it in early spring" is very unlikely. maybe a hint here or there or something they gonna aim for but eventually don't implement but that is probably it. more at jp fanfest

[Chiramu]

getting more info than just "hey, or new expac is called Alphinaid goes on holidays and we aim to release it in early spring" is very unlikely. maybe a hint here or there or something they gonna aim for but eventually don't implement but that is probably it. more at jp fanfest

I think SE should break the formula, make more content patches and delay the expansion even. They don't have to have the exact same number of content patches they had before Heavensward. They can have as many content patches or as little as they like.

[Sparktacus]

This could go very well or very poorly. If they are just pruning to make it easier without thinking of the class fantasy I think it will not be good. Improving the class fantasy is better for FFXIV then direct ability pruning; taking some of the abilities away will be good, but I would still love to see the classes really make you feel amazing!

I would love to see (but doubt we ever will) an upgrade to the current jobs like WHM to Sage or BLM to Magus. It would help to alleviate some of the job tedium for long-timers and make things feel fresh again.

[LiaShan]

They loved the game so much SE issued an apology for it and took it down to remake it into something profitable?

It was because when SE released 1.0, the game was empty， ui is slow & the maps suck,
not because the game's direction, during 1.20-1.23, we were all enjoying the game VERY much, FCs were very active.

I played WOW before, FFXIV 1.20-1.23 is an eye opener for me: damage based on different weapon type, cross class ability,
people are helping each other not blaming each other (the best community I've ever seen)

I used to login everyday so I could play with them, meeting new friends, having some new adventure(even an exp party or a job quest can be an adventure!)
every new content was carefully designed, every detail is just FUN,
because those wonderful people, and the game brings us together, the game was like a second life, not just a game.....

Now? When I login I think:"because gears are useless, maybe I am going to earn some gil? for what? I dunno...
those 1.x friends? some of them are still here, but we don't know what to do, Will I keep playing this game? I dunno....."