Why people vote abandon / quit quasi-successful groups?

[dragonseth07]

But would you leave after the first try getting the boss at 17%?

Unlikely. Now, having said that, there are ridiculous abandons that go out, but some are reasonable. If your teammates are actually hopeless, no amount of additional tries are going to help them. There's not gonna be a click where they suddenly know how AoE's work or realize that Provoke is really important for tanks. A high-level ice mage isn't going to realize the error of his ways thanks to some chat from a party member. If he hasn't learned to play by this point, he never will.

Keeping at a boss is important, because it helps people improve and learn their mistakes. But, they can only improve on that boss, really. If the problems go deeper than handling one boss's mechanics, no amount of banging your head into a wall will go through it.

[Daemius]

This right here. Welcome to the majority of the snowflake generation, AKA Millennials. You see the same type of behavior play out in real world scenarios everyday if you're out working around people enough.

This right here. Welcome to the majority of the ignorant/curmudgeon generations, AKA Baby boomers or possibly Generation X, take your pick. You see the same type of behavior play out in real world scenarios everyday if you're out working around people enough.

[AlexionSkylark]

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I'm well aware of that, and I myself already left those kinds of groups. My whole point is about the numerous situations where this happens on stronger groups who only need to adjust small things to clear, or who only didn't clear because of some "bad luck", in the sense that the ONE person who should not have comitted a mistake (big or small) at that specific time, unfortunately did (like choosing to raise the wrong person, having a sudden brief moment of distraction, using a survival CD by accident/on the wrong time or not dodging a mechanic that you normally do).

And the saddest part is that in most of those situations, it took several groups to get one that's even close to that first one who broke away.

[Krazymagic]

This right here. Welcome to the majority of the ignorant/curmudgeon generations, AKA Baby boomers or possibly Generation X, take your pick. You see the same type of behavior play out in real world scenarios everyday if you're out working around people enough.

Your attempt to encompass me in your fish net has failed. I am of the millennial generation, sadly the lesser of all 3.

[Khubla_Kha]

This right here. Welcome to the majority of the ignorant/curmudgeon generations, AKA Baby boomers or possibly Generation X, take your pick. You see the same type of behavior play out in real world scenarios everyday if you're out working around people enough.

Right, because everyone's actions are pre-determined by the year they happened to be born in...

It would behoove everyone to realize being a dingus has no prerequisite age, gender, ethnicity, religion, etc. Dinguses are dinguses regardless of where, when, why, how, who they come from.

[Violyre]

This right here. Welcome to the majority of the ignorant/curmudgeon generations, AKA Baby boomers or possibly Generation X, take your pick. You see the same type of behavior play out in real world scenarios everyday if you're out working around people enough.

Can't we all agree that stupid people exist in all generations?

[Istaru]

Can't we all agree that stupid people exist in all generations?

Agreed. We can end this thread now?

[Sandpark]

Right, because everyone's actions are pre-determined by the year they happened to be born in...

It would behoove everyone to realize being a dingus has no prerequisite age, gender, ethnicity, religion, etc. Dinguses are dinguses regardless of where, when, why, how, who they come from.

Yep 1938 Dingus, Dingus on Earth, Dingus on Uranus, everywhere dingus, dingus, dingus.

[KaitlanKela]

Everyone's going to have a different tolerance for the BS. That's why it's a majority vote.

For example, today I got a group that wiped 3 times to Chaser and then abandoned. The last attempt, we had it down to 10% and it was BEYOND OBVIOUS that the actual cause of the wipe was propellor wind. To the point people were saying in chat, "Oh, that's why we're wiping." I didn't get a chance to type in chat as I was the last one up, and as I was about to explain propellor wind and when to look for it, the group abandoned. And it was something that could have easily been solved on the next attempt.

But hey, a majority is a majority, and I definitely don't wanna play with people who don't wanna be there anyway. Frustrating, yes! I feel you man. But it's fair.

ETA: LOL at the off-topic generational stereotyping. Hilarious.

[Celef]

Unlikely. Now, having said that, there are ridiculous abandons that go out, but some are reasonable. If your teammates are actually hopeless, no amount of additional tries are going to help them. There's not gonna be a click where they suddenly know how AoE's work or realize that Provoke is really important for tanks. A high-level ice mage isn't going to realize the error of his ways thanks to some chat from a party member. If he hasn't learned to play by this point, he never will.

Keeping at a boss is important, because it helps people improve and learn their mistakes. But, they can only improve on that boss, really. If the problems go deeper than handling one boss's mechanics, no amount of banging your head into a wall will go through it.

And this is how the pool of "raiders" won't get any new entry :/ how would you (general you, not you you) do when hardcore raiders are gone and no one was "trained" to take there place ? :/