Yoshida, The Creator: Savage is the worst tuning ever in an MMO

[Kyne_Lyons]

I'm actually quite glad with the tuning of the current savage tier raid. What i wish for is that the RF is more active. There's hardly anybody inside....

That's probably because raiding is a niche activity in general. Only 50% of max-level players finished Alexander Normal last tier, and that's when it when it was faceroll from Day 1, even if it gives free loot half the playerbase doesn't bother.

[Chalbee]

That's probably because raiding is a niche activity in general. Only 50% of max-level players finished Alexander Normal last tier, and that's when it when it was faceroll from Day 1, even if it gives free loot half the playerbase doesn't bother.

Really only 50%?! I thought I was really an outlier for not doing it. I just did Gordias and Midas this weekend so that I could unlock the Creator for the gear to up my iLvl, and none of it was particularly technical or challenging, just required slightly more focus than a dungeon. I wonder what is scaring people away from the normal mode?

[Kyne_Lyons]

It's just part of the nature of raiding. It doesn't matter how easy it is, a lot of people just aren't interested in it. It's like any other facet of the game, I level crafters casually but I don't "do crafting". I don't have all the Blue Scrip recipe books, I don't bother with crafting in general outside of slowly getting them to max and then leaving them alone for the rest of the expansion. That's just me, but over half the playerbase is exactly the same in regards to raiding, even if it's Normal Mode.

[Welsper59]

I wonder what is scaring people away from the normal mode?

We all play for our own reasons. To the more normal crowd of players, the amount of time I spend on this game for the last year or so is more than enough reason to complain about the game or just logically justify quitting. I haven't done either of those things... much. I'm just comfortable with why I choose to log on.

My experience with raids and devoting health jeopardizing amounts of time was long fulfilled years ago with XI and WoW. The concept and rewards of raiding never changes, regardless of the game, and while the experience is generally fun, I'm okay ignoring it. Never done more than A1 normal, haven't even done MSQ since at least a couple patches ago (something I actually do want to motivate myself to finishing), etc. I've just lost a lot of the urge for group content these days. Not against them, and I would do them, but I'm very picky about people I group with these days.

I need to mention again that I'm not badmouthing the game or anything in my not doing these things. I'm just saying that's why I don't do it. Different objectives and priorities for different people. Not to mention getting older, so not really caring about something like a video game as much as I did 10+ years ago.

[Mazora_Espeon]

Didn't people ask for the gear they got in raids to be useful in the next tier? Now that they've done that, people are complaining? lol....

The DEVs just can't win... XD

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I love the fact that thanks to this new raid there's more PF asking for pug savage runs. It's more accessible. It's definitely very much in between t9 and t13 there's a lot of moving around.

It's Ace!

I've noticed this. Gordias and Midas were never advertised like this, which is rather nice to see. The Creator feels far less static dependent.

[Xenosan]

That's probably because raiding is a niche activity in general. Only 50% of max-level players finished Alexander Normal last tier, and that's when it when it was faceroll from Day 1, even if it gives free loot half the playerbase doesn't bother.

I blame the Normal tier token loot system. It's awful. Hope they do something different next time around. As frustrating as COIL farming could get this ALEXN token just feels miles worse to me.

[KarstenS]

I have no real issue, that hey made this changes and understand their reasons. It makes me a little bit sad, that we are close to finish A11S just after 14 hrs of raiding, but thats the way they wanted it to be.

The onliest issue I have is they called it "Savage". It is not what "Savage" does mean (the german title translated to english is "Epic"), so it should not get this name.

They just should give it a name that fits to the content. Something like "Hard Mode" or so.

[cammi]

I feel like more people are being carried then they would like to admit. People still wipe and wipe HARD on the normal raids. I'm gonna say it can't be that easy. IF people are still wiping on normal mode.

[Watachy]

I feel like more people are being carried then they would like to admit. People still wipe and wipe HARD on the normal raids. I'm gonna say it can't be that easy. IF people are still wiping on normal mode.

2 weeks after the patch the only few people i see wiping on this fight are:
- Newcomers, which seems legit since they ahaven't done it yet
- People that just want a carry for the weekly loot, basically slacking, not dpsing that much, missing the balls phase etc

This fight ain't difficult when you know what you have to do, but there will always be people that don't wanna put their will into a fight/raid even in Normal mode.