I have a dream! Who's the best? Non-spammable contents.

[Arcell]

... this means being a good LS!

So you're saying a good LS shuns all outside players, berates their members for making any mistakes and refuses to deviate from the one proven strategy? That's not being a good LS, that's being an LS full of elitists assholes. This isn't a hardcore game, guess you didn't get the memo.

All these long lockouts do is create a hostile, poisonous environment for players. Anyone who's not 100% perfect better gtfo and stop wasting peoples time. I mean if you're not god's gift to MMOs forget about anyone even thinking of taking you. That's not the kind of community I want for this game.

[Aion]

I only tried it once and take him down to 40% with a broken horn. I can't play 24/7 ^^

BTW this is my point of view, apperently i'm the only one....

and if you apply this,when will you defeated the ifrit?next year?

[ObeiKinstar]

Theres not really any way to say "oh this is the best LS"

If they add the content you want that will only satisfy YOU with who is the best LS, it is completely subjective

Also someone mentioned fighting games being more challenging than rpg, again it is completely subjective, imo a fighting style game would use more skill in the hand/eye coordination area, and a good rpg should use more skill in the planning/strategy areas

So it all comes down to YOUR own ideas on what is challenging, everything is realitive

[Kobushi]

I agree with OP, i belive we should have both in this game, we already have these so called spammable raids, so why not for players of all tastes create one like poppai mentioned, one that u can do once of twice a week, or a little less extreme maybe once a day? anyway i think it would be interesting to see that and find out if in fact the same LS with more time on their hands would still be the 1st to beat it

[Vaer]

All these long lockouts do is create a hostile, poisonous environment for players. Anyone who's not 100% perfect better gtfo and stop wasting peoples time. I mean if you're not god's gift to MMOs forget about anyone even thinking of taking you. That's not the kind of community I want for this game.

This. This is the same type of mentality as "world first, realm first" and whatever else.

Just add uber weapons/armor like relics that can't be broken by failing materia melding that takes a long time to get/looks cool/whatever and we're off to the races. You can make the drops come out of the hardest things in the game, and not just one type of event.

The only issue with FFXI's acquisition is that many relic holders took advantage of other people to get them, (Funneling all the currency to one person instead of splitting it even after making a profit if sponsored, all drops going to one person first, etc.) so to change that the people that help should get some kind of decent reward for the effort. (And no, a dice roll on AF2 for 3 1/2 hours of work is not a decent reward.)

[Aion]

I agree with OP, i belive we should have both in this game, we already have these so called spammable raids, so why not for players of all tastes create one like poppai mentioned, one that u can do once of twice a week, or a little less extreme maybe once a day? anyway i think it would be interesting to see that and find out if in fact the same LS with more time on their hands would still be the 1st to beat it

Id rather have mass PvP to decide which is the best LS (ala WoE) rather than limiting player to enjoy the game content

[AlexNiculaie]

I question your definitions of what constitutes being a "good LS," as well as good game play.

[popdai]

I agree with OP, i belive we should have both in this game, we already have these so called spammable raids, so why not for players of all tastes create one like poppai mentioned, one that u can do once of twice a week, or a little less extreme maybe once a day? anyway i think it would be interesting to see that and find out if in fact the same LS with more time on their hands would still be the 1st to beat it

THIS IS THE POINT! :P

I told you my english is not good <.< you explained my point of view

[Dreamer]

Being the 'best' in a MMORPG generally means that you have no life. Adding artificial scarcity to that isn't going to change the fact. If I wanted to deal with that kind of nonsense I would go play FFXI.