Pugs in DF Can't do A12

[Adventica6]

9 different groups, 9 different vote abandons (after 2-3 wipes each).

Every group so far has gotten past the tank Lb3 mechanic, but after that every group has wiped shortly after, constantly.

What happened to making content approachable for casual gamers? one person even asked if it was on savage ( he wasn't even joking).

Don't tell people you plan to make content more accessible then make content that isn't accessible.

Not even going to que for my 10th run, because I know in my head, it's just going to be another vote abandon.

[Izularia]

Sounds like bad luck, tbh. There are indeed groups not capable of the fight, but most of the time people succeed after 1 or 2 wipes.

Give it time. As soon as people own good gear, DF groups are going to do the fight with ease.

[Zojha]

Sounds like bad luck, tbh. There are indeed groups not capable of the fight, but most of the time people succeed after 1 or 2 wipes.

Mhm, that's not my experience either^^'

You either one-shot it - typically easily at that -, or you vote abandon after several wipes. That's my experience so far.

[Evangela]

A12 is the easiest of the Creator raid lol

Most DF groups can one shot it. I think they need to buff the difficulty a little bit, it's the last boss of the whole Alex raid.

[lulunami]

The first time I beat A12 normal, my Internet disconnected 3 to 4 times during that run, and I got hard carried by the group I was playing with. A12 is not that hard imho. It should not be so easy that it does not matter what buttons players are pressing.

[Natashio]

Are we already asking for nerfs before I even try out this thing. I'm assuming that the original poster has to be a member of a free company with enough players to do this thing. There's always party finder too that one can use.

[Zojha]

It should not be so easy that it does not matter what buttons players are pressing.

Well...
We could put content to that test with another "Twitch Plays " campaign. If it can be beat in anarchy mode, it's too easy :P

[FinaSel]

2nd time I did this raid it was with DF group.

Only 1 person died the entire time.

It was smooth.

I think you can get really lucky or really unlucky.
I had this experience with Sophia. Some groups did so well. Other groups did so terribly.

[Evangela]

Make me wonder how could those people get past A11. That one is a lot harder than 12.

[Fynlar]

A12 is the "Final Steps" of this patch for me. Some groups can't hack it, but in my experience, most have succeeded... despite the complaints I see on forums regarding its difficulty.

A11 is the "Weeping City" of this patch for me. Most of the time I DF this, it will end up with timing out or vote abandon.