Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5 6 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 57
  1. #41
    Player
    Shadotterdan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    222
    Character
    Shalala Shala
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Nah, they increased in damage if cast successively, the point being to have a bunch of BLMs cast the same one for massive damage.
    (2)

  2. #42
    Player
    WhiteArchmage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    1,458
    Character
    Samniel Atkascha
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Koji Fox obviously didn't have faith in the playerbases intelligence if he thought they couldn't get their head around suffixes
    Or he was planning ahead to when we reach Fire/Cure/Thunder/Whatever V/VI/VII and such. And FFII didn't have -ra, -ga, -ja either because the spell leveled up so you would go all the way to Fire XII (or XIV? I think XIV was the cap...). The localization has a lot of fanservice for the american audience, not those that think that if you didn't play it in the original japanese in the famicon means you're not a real fan.
    (7)

  3. #43
    Player
    Zojha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    3,565
    Character
    Lodestone Bait
    World
    Pandaemonium
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorzi View Post
    It used both.
    And that IMO is the best way to go.

    Fire II implies that it's a better version of Fire I. Same name, same spell, just new and improved! Fira implies that it's a different spell and has a different use, much like Cure and Medica.

    I could imagine the thunder spells of a black mage to be numbered for example. It's pretty much the same spell, only difference is that it does more damage for more cast time. Fire I and Fire II however...are not much alike, they have vastly different usage.
    (5)

  4. #44
    Player
    Yasuhiro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,225
    Character
    Marie Antoinette
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    The localization has a lot of fanservice for the american audience, not those that think that if you didn't play it in the original japanese in the famicon means you're not a real fan.
    null argument because every FF re-release used the system we see today and him using the numbered system still doesn't make sense even if we go beyond -ja just name them as they are, tool tips and job quests exist.
    (1)
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  5. #45
    Player
    Yasminou's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    850
    Character
    Yas Ticot
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorzi View Post
    It used both. Strength was measured in I-V, but -ga spells were AoE (and also tiered I-V.) So Thunder II and Thundaga II both existed. -ja spells existed too. I can't remember what they did, I think they were AoE and decreased in damage if you cast it successively.
    -ga spells were aoe around the target (like Fire II in FFXIV), while -ra spells were aoe around the caster (like Blizzard II in FFXIV).
    -ja spellls were like -ga with an increase in potency for successive casts, as you said: they were mosty introduced in order not to give -ga IV spells to BLM, as they would have been overpowered (mobs had had them for a long time with a casting time shorter than -ga III and a small mp cost).

    On a side note, I need to rerun Gubal hard but if I recall correctly, in French, the message about Cure spells talks about Giga Soin, Ultra Soin and another name: the concil chose the name Giga Soin (since Fire IV / Blizzard IV are Giga Feu / Giga Glace in French).
    (2)
    Last edited by Yasminou; 10-07-2016 at 05:33 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Opodaopo View Post
    Plus qu'une terreur, une aide précieuse
    My question, suggested by my wife, at Paris 2019 Fan Festival: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/374470999?t=03h40m29s.

  6. #46
    Player
    Belhi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    3,016
    Character
    J'talhdi Belhi
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Does anyone actually know what Cure 4 does? I have never quite figured out what it does mechanically when Kuribu casts it. It certainly doesn't seem to heal for a lot.
    (0)

  7. #47
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    5,764
    Character
    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Does anyone actually know what Cure 4 does? I have never quite figured out what it does mechanically when Kuribu casts it. It certainly doesn't seem to heal for a lot.
    It's linked to the pillars of light she summons, so each player standing on it weakens her healing potency. I had some occasions where people missed it, which caused her HP to be healed for more and gave her Regen.
    (0)

  8. #48
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Does anyone actually know what Cure 4 does? I have never quite figured out what it does mechanically when Kuribu casts it. It certainly doesn't seem to heal for a lot.
    Its an AoE like III, however that fight usses it more like an offensive spell then a curative one. So wither the potency might change for players or it is meant to be used offensively with reverse (banking on the former though)

    I shouls note that some spells work different when used by opponents Cure III was also affected by Reverse but was otherwise the same (it just have a telegraph like other player used actions that the enemy uses like Overpower) The Voidsent and Ixal in Xelphatol had their own versions of Fire, Blizzard and Aero spells and Sophia has er own version of Thunder II and II (which are a klarge cleave and a Lunal Dynamo attack rather than just being Thunder with an extension, though I wonder if there was meant to be a prefix attached like with the Void and Ixali spells)
    (2)

  9. #49
    Player
    Fiaryn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    28
    Character
    Fiaryn Kilif
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    You mean a system that's always been in Final Fantasy since Japanese releases? The numbered system was only in FF1, II(IV) and III(VI) Because of space limitations and FFVII because that translation was mediocre. Ra/Ga/Ja is the proper naming convention for these spells even Record Keepers FFXIV events uses them. Koji Fox obviously didn't have faith in the playerbases intelligence if he thought they couldn't get their head around suffixes
    "A system that has always been in place, except when it hasn't been. Truly an unforgivable crime against our timeless and unshakeable traditions"

    To be more direct: It's pretty much a completely arbitrary value judgement either way.
    (7)

  10. #50
    Player
    Yasuhiro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,225
    Character
    Marie Antoinette
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiaryn View Post
    "A system that has always been in place, except when it hasn't been.
    Except it has. All re-releases of Final fantasy games have opted to use the ra/ga and ja system.
    (0)
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5 6 LastLast