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  1. #51
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    MrPresident's Avatar
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    Casper Colt
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Yeah, but if raiders don't have the BiS gear from raiding the hardest content then what's the point?
    If you've already beaten the hardest content, what do you even need it for? You just want it to afk in idyllshire all day anyway, so the stats on it are meaningless.
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  2. #52
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    jack891's Avatar
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    Mirajane Skysong
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Loving that skill speed det spear... so great I love it. Why you do this SE
    Love it or hate it, its still BiS
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  3. #53
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MrPresident View Post
    If you've already beaten the hardest content, what do you even need it for? You just want it to afk in idyllshire all day anyway, so the stats on it are meaningless.
    I'm not joining you in going round in circles.
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  4. #54
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    I'm not joining you in going round in circles.
    Just have to say it's a prestige thing, part of the reward and reason why endgame content was the stuff of envy that this genre was once renowned for. There's really no circles on that matter. Endgame bragging rights were once centered around having the best stats AND best looking gear (less subjective of a statement back then). Though the stats thing is arguable, since there usually weren't much options on the matter.

    This is not a negative remark btw. It's just how it is in this genre. Likewise however, what's going on with endgame raiders is apparently as intended by the devs, which isn't very unsurprising if you reflect on the vast number of examples previously. The game is not going to change for the significantly small minority that want it to. It'll change if the devs want it to.
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  5. #55
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Character
    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    because the WD and main stat is better than the secondary stats.
    Worth noting, that once again BRD and MCH get arbitrarily screwed over here. The 275 Bow and Gun have identical Weapon damage ( and worse stats for MCH's weapon) than their i270 counterparts.
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  6. #56
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Just have to say it's a prestige thing, part of the reward and reason why endgame content was the stuff of envy that this genre was once renowned for. There's really no circles on that matter. Endgame bragging rights were once centered around having the best stats AND best looking gear (less subjective of a statement back then). Though the stats thing is arguable, since there usually weren't much options on the matter.
    Read the previous pages and you see the people making it into circles. I'm not interested in being roped into that BS.
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  7. #57
    Player dragorian's Avatar
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    Character
    Blueberry Haze
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Reason is simple as they stated that relics will always be the best as they are for job specific and upgradable and those are not.Yes one worked hard to get Alexander savage wep and that is bragging rights but not necessarily the best same with gear. I whm and scripture gear has bad stats but my lore gear mostly is best ilv is moote you have to gear with stats that compliment your job. Spell speed is not that important for whm but piety and determination is like on my 240 relic you can choose secondary stats our choice but the hyper has piety and details and should be carried over. I see so many put on let's say 250 ilv gear to get in ex or raids but they lack in dps or tanks lack in hate and damg control and yet they ilv 250 and can't figure out how they are doing poorly even with good rot and high ilv gear it's because se gives us choice but they have gear made for specific jobs and people want the new gear I'm cool but in reality they are not. It's all about choosing the right stats and that helps the team
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  8. #58
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Why would non raiders have the best weapons if they need it to do the dungeons ?
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