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  1. #1981
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    T2 > B3 > Eno > Laylines > Raging Strikes > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives me mp back) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    Then I rotate: F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives mp during F3 cast) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    For AoE fights (3 or more enemies): F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Swiftcast > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Flare > Mp Potion > B3

    Then rotate: F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Transpose
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  2. #1982
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavitz_ View Post
    Thoughts on a Thunder IV AOE that also refreshes Enochian? I can dream
    That would be great, hehe
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  3. #1983
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    Synth Istituto
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    I too would like something else to refresh enochian timer. In general, I would like to see a thunder IV aoe that maybe is only usable under enochian but also refreshes the enochican timer and can perhaps proc a thunder cloud (single target only). It would be very tricky to balance something like this I imagine (note the balancing issues etc). This may be unrealistic but one can always dream
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  4. #1984
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    Conqueror Dusk
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reptiletc View Post
    T2 > B3 > Eno > Laylines > Raging Strikes > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives me mp back) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    Then I rotate: F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives mp during F3 cast) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    For AoE fights (3 or more enemies): F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Swiftcast > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Flare > Mp Potion > B3

    Then rotate: F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Transpose
    Uh wheres the convert for the single target opener along with the sharpcast? I feel like you might be missing out on that opener. Can you tell me the total amount of potency that opener has?
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  5. #1985
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reptiletc View Post
    For AoE fights (3 or more enemies): F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Swiftcast > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Flare > Mp Potion > B3
    Why would you use Flare after transpose and under Umbral Ice? Even Freeze is a better option than a Flare weakend by Umbral Ice :/.

    A much better alternative is to use the MP potion before the third Flare, not after.
    This way Flare will be under AF3, while still having Transpose available afterwards to get into UI.
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  6. #1986
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptiletc View Post
    T2 > B3 > Eno > Laylines > Raging Strikes > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives me mp back) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    Then I rotate: F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 (Gives mp during F3 cast) > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4

    For AoE fights (3 or more enemies): F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Swiftcast > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Flare > Mp Potion > B3

    Then rotate: F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Transpose
    This opener is all sorts of messed up
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  7. #1987
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    To echo what a few others have said. I'd love to see Thunder IV. I would make it same potency as Thunder and maybe just reduce it to 15s for balance issues. It would act the same as Thunder, meaning TC could still trigger. You wouldn't even need it to refresh enochian. Just if there are multiple adds, cast Thunder IV in UI instead if T1; applying Thunder to all enemies in range. It would act as a quicker use of sharpcasting a Thunder to dot multiple enemies.

    Also I'd love an ability that allowed us to permanently store a proc. There are many situations where I'll get a proc. And know I'll need it in about 15s but it doesn't last that long. So I have to use it and fish for another. The ability to put one in the bank to withdrawal at your convenience would be sublime.
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  8. #1988
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    Alzrius Nremyn
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    I posted my rotations not as advice, but rather I wanted some for myself. I've only been playing for almost a year now and had to teach myself my job. Figured I'd post what I do currently with hopes of getting a hand in polishing it.
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  9. #1989
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    A much better alternative is to use the MP potion before the third Flare, not after.
    Could I get a recommendation on which Potion I should go with? I have HQ X-Ethers and they seem to give me a few points shy of another flare.
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  10. #1990
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reptiletc View Post
    For AoE fights (3 or more enemies): F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Swiftcast > Convert > Flare > Transpose > Flare > Mp Potion > B3

    Then rotate: F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Transpose
    F3 > F2 > F2 > F2 > Swiftcast > Flare > ((Mp Potion > Flare >)) ((Convert > Flare >)) Transpose

    Then rotate: F3 > F2 > F2 > Flare > Transpose

    NQ max-ethers give enough MP for a Flare.
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