ilvl275 weapons have the WORST stats EVER for a final raid tier..

[Sparktacus]

What next raid patch? This is the last one of the expac.

It's more accurate to say that you repeated multiple times Yoshi did not want this, and at no point stated or cited him saying he doesn't want a repeat. I even went and looked at all your posts in the thread for ya (that I could find in five sleepy minutes)

This still does not prove that they will repeat the formula with what they have learned, also if I can find a reference I will post it to appease you

Now, onto this:

The relic Braves didn't catch up to the raid gear till the final tier (135) either, and until then Relic was consistently behind.

From Wiki:

Nexus Zodiac Weapons (iLvl 115)
See also: Nexus Zodiac Weapons/Quest
Introduced in Patch 2.38, the Nexus Zodiac Weapons (item level 115) are the fourth stage of the Zodiac Weapons.
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wi....28iLvl_115.29

So you were wrong. 115 was very much at the end of SCoB cycle but before FCoB

[Radacci]

In the end, the Animus weapon will be BiS, so what's the point?

for a few weeks before 4.0, so what's the point?

[ErryK]

You don't know the Animus will be bis. Last tier they only reached 240 still behind the 245 Midas weapons.

I can only get 24 Acc from any other weapon, while I get 120 Accuracy from my SCH Anima, it will be BiS when it gets upped next in 3.45. To me anyways.

[Dualgunner]

This still does not prove that they will repeat the formula with what they have learned, also if I can find a reference I will post it to appease you

All I'm going by is how paint-by-numbers this expansion has been. Virtually everything has been an exact mirror of how things went in 2.x. While it's true there is no proof the pattern will repeat, there is still a pattern they're following and it can be predicted. Look at the tomestones: http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wi...gan_Tomestones

Mythology and Philosophy were released in 2.0, which is the only deviation from 3.0's Law and 3.05's Esoterics. We then get Soldiery in 2.2, and Lore in 3.2. Finally, we get Poetics in 2.4, and Scripture in 3.4. The prediction is Scripture will be the final tome variant, because of how closely this followed in line with 2.x.

Raids?

BCoB per the wiki was released in 2.0. Gordias in 3.01. SCoB in 2.2, Midas in 3.2; FCoB in 2.4, Creator in 3.4.
Labyrinth in 2.1, Syrcus 2.3, WoD 2.5; Void Ark 3.1, Weeping City 3.3--it's a safe bet we're getting Void Ark Chapter 3 in 3.5 based on how closely they're mirroring well...everything major so far.

Admittedly the relic weapons are one of the few things not being copied near verbatim. I will concede there. But there are patterns they follow very strictly to as seen so far.

In the end it's up to the devs and not us. And I know Yoshi has at points emphasized he wants the raid gear to be the best, but actions speak louder than words, and the action of giving shit stats to the raid weapons speaks louder than any number of interviews with him saying "I want raid gear to be the best."

Citations (gonna see about spoilering these out):
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Th...hamut_-_Turn_1 (2.0 BCoB)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Th...hamut_-_Turn_1 (2.2 SCoB)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Th...hamut_-_Turn_1 (2.4 FCoB)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/La...f_the_Ancients (24 man raid, 2.1)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Syrcus_Tower (24 man raid 2, 2.3)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/World_of_Darkness (24 man raid 3, 2.5)
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http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Al..._of_the_Father (Gordias 3.01)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Al...ist_of_the_Son (Midas 3.2)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Al...of_the_Creator (Creator 3.4)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/The_Void_Ark (24 man raid 1, 3.1)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Th..._City_of_Mhach (24 man raid, 3.3)

From Wiki:

Nexus Zodiac Weapons (iLvl 115)
See also: Nexus Zodiac Weapons/Quest
Introduced in Patch 2.38, the Nexus Zodiac Weapons (item level 115) are the fourth stage of the Zodiac Weapons.
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wi....28iLvl_115.29

So you were wrong. 115 was very much at the end of SCoB cycle but before FCoB

I'll concede--the relic weapon finally caught up to a weapon released in 2.2 at patch 2.38, and less than a month before vastly superior i135 weapons were released in 2.4.

[Sparktacus]

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We pretty much agree here. I only pointed out they showed change in the relic formula with midas so it was up in the air how the end stage will turn out. I have definitely posted about personal grievances with the relic and hopes for a complete rework of it's system come 4.0 (as well as raid gear but that's another topic XD )

[Dualgunner]

We pretty much agree here. I only pointed out they showed change in the relic formula with midas so it was up in the air how the end stage will turn out. I have definitely posted about personal grievances with the relic and hopes for a complete rework of it's system come 4.0 (as well as raid gear but that's another topic XD )

It's just so stressful and sad when you realize how very "A Realm Reborn" Heavensward really was.

Also I came off as snippy in my last edit of the previous post, I apologize x3

[Cherub]

In the end it's up to the devs and not us. And I know Yoshi has at points emphasized he wants the raid gear to be the best, but actions speak louder than words, and the action of giving shit stats to the raid weapons speaks louder than any number of interviews with him saying "I want raid gear to be the best".

This always makes me think they actually have no real clue as to which stats benefit the Jobs the most. To me this seems like a bad dice roll.
I mean, I can obviously tell variety in stats is not what they are aiming for since 3 out of 4 Alexandrian accessories for casters are the exact same Stats (Crit/Det). At least I had the feeling they cared what stats gear and weapons ended up with in their entire sets and it felt like there was good variety in it. But 3.4 made me realize, they don't give a single fuck. Roll the dice and be done with it.

[ServerCollaps]

for a few weeks before 4.0, so what's the point?

for about half a year :/

[SendohJin]

for a few weeks before 4.0, so what's the point?

So people have something to do those few weeks.

[Kaurie]

It is rather frustrating. While the 275 weapons will be better than the rest due to higher WD and main stat, the difference is not very high due to the poor stat choices for most of the 275 weapons.

I would really love it if either secondary stats were randomized, or we had some sort of choice among them.