Drk tanking without Darkside.

[Sarcatica]

still think bloodweapon shouldnt be locked out of grit, you have it in sastasha, all of a sudden you get a skill 20 levels later that prevents you from using it. Dont believe any other job works like this, usually its the other way around where you get skills that are only usable with new stance of buff up. But yeah DS before a pull, cut if off it mp is low after mobs die, cut it on before next pull, etc.
Unnecessary, but you can still use ethers/elixers and whatnot to restore mp with darkside on.

WAR should totally have access to Fell Cleave in Defiance. PLD should also have access to double auto attacks! Game's broken! /s

[ADVSS]

WAR should totally have access to Fell Cleave in Defiance. PLD should also have access to double auto attacks! Game's broken! /s

Im fine with that still potency loss, and they keep the extra hp in defiance, they both have access to fight or flight and berserk in their tank stances, not sure where youre going with this.

[Sarcatica]

Im fine with that still potency loss, and they keep the extra hp in defiance, they both have access to fight or flight and berserk in their tank stances, not sure where youre going with this.

Do you know how much easier for DRK to maintain that 15% dmg up? PLD and WAR have to think way more to maximize damage from each usage from Berserk and FoF. If you are jusf popping it off CD all the time, you are doing it wrong.

PLD gains access to double autos in SwO, DRK gains Blood Weapon without Grit, WAR gains 5%dmg up and 2 damaging skills in Deliverance. If anything, you are handsomely rewarded for knowing how to tank to the point where you can actually afford to be in DPS stance without sacrificing your survivability.

[Khalithar]

Possibility #1: The player couldn't into simple MP management, so the mp was spent and Darkside automatically turned off, forgot to turn it on again until the boss.
Possibility #2: The player couldn't into simple MP management, so they opted to just not use Darkside on trash and decided to use it on boss only instead.
Possibility #3: It's my subs I can play however I want.

Possibility #4: I toggle Darkside off between trash pulls and occasionally forget to turn it back on sometimes.

[Starkbeaumont]

Not one person has a right to complain about others in a DF. You picked to use a system design for all skill levels, you picked the game to make a group for you. They have a right to play how they want, lazy or not. You did not make that group. You don't have a say on how they play. The people who complain about others in DF need to get over it.

no, cause those that don't play by the rules waste everyone else time. it's just as much my money as it is the other person's. and if someone makes the group wipe or drags out a fight by just hitting one button or never using cds or whatever reason the lazy one brings up I'll sure gonna tell that person to stop slacking and better play right. this is not about always giving 100% but about actually caring about the time and fun of everyone.

[DaulBan]

So we should totally have level jumping potions, right?

There are enough people at level 60 who are bad already, and may as well have not done the 1-59 stuff. Couldn't hurt too much more to give people at least a jump to level 50 when 4.0 comes out.

[Wavaryen]

no, cause those that don't play by the rules waste everyone else time. it's just as much my money as it is the other person's. and if someone makes the group wipe or drags out a fight by just hitting one button or never using cds or whatever reason the lazy one brings up I'll sure gonna tell that person to stop slacking and better play right. this is not about always giving 100% but about actually caring about the time and fun of everyone.

You waste your own time by not building a group yourself. They did not waste your time.

[albertopin]

I bet that he lost darkside between bosses and forgot to turn it on until reaching next boss.
If he was tanking classic (aggro combo) and using unleash while on darkside he drained all his mp.

Anyways its bad tanking

[Lone-wolfe-02]

This infuriates me. How people can completely disregard 15% damage and access to more skills is beyond me, maybe SE making jobs easier in 4.0 is a good thing...

[Sarcatica]

This infuriates me. How people can completely disregard 15% damage and access to more skills is beyond me, maybe SE making jobs easier in 4.0 is a good thing...

The thing is even if SE makes all the jobs straight forward and cookie cutter, people will still find reasons to suck at them. See PLD, literally has the easiest dps rotation and people still do like 500dps in SwO mind you. Even back in lvl50 PLD, all you have to do was spam RoH combo and people still failed at it. Really? PLD easiest job? Same applies to that 300dps smn or brd in DREX for god's sake.

Note: like even just spamming a combo over and over is enough to breech that 500dps easily.