Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Vayanne]

Yesterday I did the new Alexander raids again to keep the mechanics fresh in my head. This time I decided that I should take a more... active part in them. I watched the Eyes of the Creator guide yet another time and decided to give the adds activation mechanic a try. I picked up a power generator, dumped it near a scrap pile and proceeded to move to a square with glowing walls when I heard a few chat message alerts. As I looked at the warnings from the party, the lava came up, engulfing me and the robot I had wrongly removed from its good spot. Wipey. Sorry again, guys, I should reserve such tests for learning parties.
A few bosses and several wipes later, I was reunited with my love, Alexander Prime. After drawing three spires in a row, I finally got that yummy balance! Seeing the Propeller Wind coming, I moved to take cover behind one of those metal boulders. I hadn't determined the correct angle of the attack, since it still hit me and led to my demise just as I was anticipating my sweet moment of mass balance glory. To add insult to injury, IRL a stink bug flew over my head and peed on me. We still completed it and I was just sharing my frustration in FC chat when I got disconnected. On the bright side, I managed to finish the whole of Creator normal in one evening, and gained a better grasp on the mechanics. On the other side... That stink bug and is still lurking somewhere in the room, waiting to strike again! And... It's brought some friends.
(I will evict them as soon as I catch them.)

[Fluestergras]

That stink bug and is still lurking somewhere in the room, waiting to strike again! And... It's brought some friends.
(I will evict them as soon as I catch them.)

*throws some Fire IVs to Vayanne's house* BURN THEM, BURN THEM!! *screams panically*

My alt (level 41 scholar) healed a darkknight wearing a freaking mage chestpiece and hat through Stone Vigil. Was horrible to keep her up, and soon after the second boss I couldn't prevent a wipe. When she apologized for having pulled too much (which she didn't), I explained how wearing tank equip would help. The tank didn't answer, but the bard started yelling at me, how the tank is great and the wipe was my fault. Well yeah.

[Confidence_Trick]

I like how the final boss of Xelphatol (I won't even try to spell his name :P) makes a little Bioware reference when he exorts his hawk minions to "go for the eyes!"

[raela]

I didn't know this.

But did you know that the turrets at the first boss of Aetherochemical Research Facility explode and do room wide AoE if they are ignored or not killed fast enough?
I had a group where DPS and Tank completely ignored both turrets, which exploded and almost wiped us.

Standard protocol with my friends is to ignore the turrets and full DPS on boss to clear it faster. I go SCH and mostly dps.. Just needs a quick indom after and everyone's good. Communication is key there though.. People have to know to expect it.

[Bebekurenai]

Today my friend got kicked out of a dungeon for using AoEs, because the tank couldn't keep hate.

In Sastasha.

Sorry but I agree with the tank here. Is it really so hard to hold back a little especially at pulls? Can't your friend give the tank a chance to try and learn to tank? I would have kicked him myself too to be honest. Clearly your friend doesn't play with the party and can't even follow a simple request. I don't care if it's Sastasha or Savage, you don't play with the party and even start a fuss about it? Bai.

[Vele]

Oh I completely agree with you, my first experience was "What the fudge is this nonsense?!" Though you get used to it in the end =)

I'm pretty flexible, But there's always one person who tries to steal your partner for that mechanic and there's a lot of clenching scenario's watching people just barely making it.

Was invited by a friend to a farm group and what they did was have each tank/healer + dps pair in specific places relative to the boss. I think it was something like MT + ranged in front of the boss, OT + melee on right flank, melee + healer on left flank, and 4th dps + healer on rear. Of course with tank swaps the dps paired with the tanks just went to their respective position to be with whoever was MTing or OTing at the time, rather than the specific person. It saved a lot of mess because everyone is spread out and there's no confusion about where your partner is. Also saves the clutter of having a bunch of symbols over people's heads.

When I brought up this strategy later with my friends/static when we were farming together they somehow found this too hard and opted for the "git gud" strategy of running around trying to find your partner and most often being on top of other people. There was a lot of dying involved and I had to use healer lb3 on many, many pulls.

[Lokier]

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Question is, did the tank ASK him to stop aoeing before kicking him, or just out-right kick him? Because "dick-move" on the tanks part if he didn't. Dick move on the BLMs part if he did and didn't bother to comply with the tanks request.

[Bebekurenai]

Question is, did the tank ASK him to stop aoeing before kicking him, or just out-right kick him? Because "dick-move" on the tanks part if he didn't. Dick move on the BLMs part if he did and didn't bother to comply with the tanks request.

Look at the screenie. He did ask.

Today my friend got kicked out of a dungeon for using AoEs, because the tank couldn't keep hate.

In Sastasha.

What baffles me is that there are 6 people who agree with this nonsense lol there goes our community

[KaitlanKela]

Sorry but I agree with the tank here. Is it really so hard to hold back a little especially at pulls? Can't your friend give the tank a chance to try and learn to tank? I would have kicked him myself too to be honest.

Disagree. So because the tank is new and can't do his job, we have to ask the BLM to stop doing his job too? No. Everyone should be responsible for playing to the fullness of their ability all the time. If we're speaking STRICTLY here, the tank deserved the kick, he was the weak link.

HOWEVER, the ideal way to deal with the situation is to try to help the tank improve his level of competency through some small discussion if it's warranted. That way the new tank gets the opportunity to learn how to deal with the challenge of having high AOE dps in the party, which he will be dealing with for the rest of the game. No sense excusing him now, he'll HAVE to learn it eventually or he'll never get past Brayflox's Longstop.

[Aquaslash]

Today my friend got kicked out of a dungeon for using AoEs, because the tank couldn't keep hate.

In Sastasha.

To be fair, holding aggro is rough there because you dont have your tank stance. Plus fresh tanks won't have good gear. That's one of the few places where it's ok to hold back dps. Not like you're doing more than spamming impulse drive anyway...

;_;

HOWEVER, the ideal way to deal with the situation is to try to help the tank improve his level of competency through some small discussion if it's warranted. That way the new tank gets the opportunity to learn how to deal with the challenge of having high AOE dps in the party, which he will be dealing with for the rest of the game. No sense excusing him now, he'll HAVE to learn it eventually or he'll never get past Brayflox's Longstop.

That would be vaild if he had his tank stance but since it's Satasha, and he didn't, your BLM is being a douche. Frankly, I'd have let him tank the adds and have him demonstrate why BLM is a glass cannon...

By being the glass of course