Yoshida, The Creator: Savage is the worst tuning ever in an MMO

[Vasala]

So far Creator is a lot more fun than the prior two turns. It is nice to see progression happen rather than slamming into a wall like happened on the last 2 wings of Alexander. We will see how fast my group beats Creator. Our group has been through plenty of turn over though the wings of this zone. Only 3 people from our original group that started back in ARR remain in it. We lost the rest of the group in Gordias soon after our first clear of A2S and starting to play with A3S. Rebuilt and did not make it back to A3S before Midas came back. Midas cleared A5S and then hit the wall that was A6S. Lost some people there after getting to Vortexer. Rebuilt a couple of times and were finally getting close to a kill when 3.4 hit. Lot of our group was getting pretty depressed over the whole situation. Having to constantly have progression stalled while training replacements is not so fun.

This first week we spent our first raid night on Sophia ex and got our team all outfitted with her weapons. Other gear is mostly 240 with a few pieces of 250 from Creator normal. We got our clear of A9S Monday night and decided not to push on with just 30 min left on our raid night. This has definitely helped group morale.

Our raid schedule is just 3 nights a week for 3 hours per night. So think we are closer to a true "mid-core" group. We do use food and some potions but don't go all out with HQ penta melded crafted gear.

[Lulu89]

So far Creator is a lot more fun than the prior two turns. It is nice to see progression happen rather than slamming into a wall like happened on the last 2 wings of Alexander. We will see how fast my group beats Creator. Our group has been through plenty of turn over though the wings of this zone. Only 3 people from our original group that started back in ARR remain in it. We lost the rest of the group in Gordias soon after our first clear of A2S and starting to play with A3S. Rebuilt and did not make it back to A3S before Midas came back. Midas cleared A5S and then hit the wall that was A6S. Lost some people there after getting to Vortexer. Rebuilt a couple of times and were finally getting close to a kill when 3.4 hit. Lot of our group was getting pretty depressed over the whole situation. Having to constantly have progression stalled while training replacements is not so fun.

This first week we spent our first raid night on Sophia ex and got our team all outfitted with her weapons. Other gear is mostly 240 with a few pieces of 250 from Creator normal. We got our clear of A9S Monday night and decided not to push on with just 30 min left on our raid night. This has definitely helped group morale.

Our raid schedule is just 3 nights a week for 3 hours per night. So think we are closer to a true "mid-core" group. We do use food and some potions but don't go all out with HQ penta melded crafted gear.

I feel the same it nicer too see more happening then just 3-6hr of fails, after fails..

[Lambdafish]

How is something being easyer broken? oo that right your hardcore..
your better then everyone so it broken.

Nice jab at a comment that didn't say that, Velhart said that it is broken from a design perspective, which it is. The fights are tuned so that they become disjointed, with people skipping phases and missing whole sections of fights. The gear check is low, which is not a good way to make content easier. I like the content being easier, but if people are skipping these parts of fights no problem at this stage (we have only just gotten into week 2), then the devs have failed at making any kind of meaningful gear progression or content scaling, which anyone should see as bad whether you want easy content or not.

The same can be said of Sophia, which is not a hard fight to begin with (example: Nidhogg was fine, Sophia is disjointed)

[Lulu89]

Nice jab at a comment that didn't say that, Velhart said that it is broken from a design perspective, which it is. The fights are tuned so that they become disjointed, with people skipping phases and missing whole sections of fights. The gear check is low, which is not a good way to make content easier. I like the content being easier, but if people are skipping these parts of fights no problem at this stage (we have only just gotten into week 2), then the devs have failed at making any kind of meaningful gear progression or content scaling, which anyone should see as bad whether you want easy content or not.

The same can be said of Sophia, which is not a hard fight to begin with (example: Nidhogg was fine, Sophia is disjointed)

"Said the Hardcore/Eilits raider (the 1%) to the Casual raider (The 99%)" Again I say it not broken if if easy. Not everyone is skiping parts of the fights....

[Velhart]

How is something being easyer broken? oo that right your hardcore..
your better then everyone so it broken.

I don't mean it being easier was why it has broken design. It was the tuning of the raids/gear scale/phase skipping that are in question. I don't think it should be so easy to skip phases with ilvl240 gear. It can be easier if it wants, as long as it mechanics and gear is properly tuned towards it.

[Pasquale]

How is something being easyer broken? oo that right your hardcore..
your better then everyone so it broken.

Don't you know? Every1 who find this content easy or have different opinione = you are hardcore 100% u are the scrub 1%

[Windi]

Can we all get this discussion back on track by ditching "casual" and "hardcore" debate?

Like, here is some reality for you folks: Unless you are getting paid/participating in tourneys with any given game, you are casual. Everyone does this stuff because they want to take time out of their daily lives to have some fun. Delving into the complexity of game mechanics and exploiting it to get the most out of the game is really just another way of casual fun from somebody else.

So quit it. We're all casual.

[Lulu89]

I don't mean it being easier was why it has broken design. It was the tuning of the raids/gear scale/phase skipping that are in question. I don't think it should be so easy to skip phases with ilvl240 gear. It can be easier if it wants, as long as it mechanics and gear is properly tuned towards it.

Ok i see what you getting at.. but.. think about it this way.

But ppl are missing what im saying. only the pro player/hardcore are the ones skipping crap. I run a very social/casule FC, and most of our member CANT skip on SopEX even in 235/240 gear. and yes we hav many clear but still cant skip. 40 clear and my team only skips the 1st Tank buster 3-4times.

I get what ppl are saying and i like this way.. it just alot, if not MOST ppl playing this game are not big OP raider or high DPS. The 99% have been out of raids for so long that it nice to see them trying again.. but it makeing the more Top/hardcore raider salty and rage bc it to easy for them and there skiping crap and burning to fast.

What I dont think ppl see is the other side of this.. and it that now there are more raider and more clear.. ppl are happer and winning after over a year of failing for weeks befor a clear.

That's what I'm saying.

[Lulu89]

Don't you know? Every1 who find this content easy or have different opinione = you are hardcore 100% u are the scrub 1%

I alrdy have SopEX on farm and A9S cleared.. but im the 1%?
Im saying stop being salty and be happy that there more ppl raiding and more clears.

[Pasquale]

I alrdy have SopEX on farm and A9S cleared.. but im the 1%?
Im saying stop being salty and be happy that there more ppl raiding and more clears.

U just said to the guy who was discussing about how ez easy the content for him that he is the 1% of the hardcore players when u don't even know who he is.. Assuming that every1 unhappy = hardcore