Yoshida, The Creator: Savage is the worst tuning ever in an MMO

[Pasquale]

Explain me these other contents we miss

[Doki]

Maybe they devs just wanted you to be able to be fully geared out and able to take a break from the game in time for FFXV to release.

[Reynhart]

My incentive clearing content is not gear, but having a challenge to complete with my mates.

But once you've cleared all turns of Creator for two or three consecutives weeks, is there still a challenge ?

What am I going to do after completing the raid? Keep doing other content.

Like what ? Let's suppose that skipping crafting and gathering is a valid option because it's a whole new branch of gameplay that some people don't like, once Savage and Sophia EX are done, you have no new things to do until 3.5. And even then, it won't really be challenging for those who have already cleared Savage.

Now that I think of it, PoTD is getting its update in 3.45, so I suppose this will be the main content people do while waiting for 4.0.

The way I see it, the formula should be changed so that each patch will bring higher items, which means...switching 8-man and 24-man raid. At least, this way, you can say that each patch will give you the gear to jump into the content for the next patch. And they could make Savage version of 24-man raids.

[Zojha]

And they could make Savage version of 24-man raids.

Uhm...I don't think that's a good idea until they improve the alliance feature. Can you even make a full alliance before queuing up? Because otherwise you'd always have randoms and randoms don't mix overly well with Savage style difficulty.

[ChocoFeru]

Explain me these other contents we miss

You'll end up laughing about it because you're only focused on an specific content, but let's do it anyways;

Chocobo Racing to get a full 4 Stars Chocobo and winning the Chocobo Headgear and the barding, completing all the challenges, and farm for MGP prices.

Do PVP for the achievements/mount, get PVP gear as glamour, or just play for fun.

The Feast, to get into the 100 first ones in your datacenter where every combat is challenging, so you can get the Lone Wolf set, the Mini-Airship mount and who knows, maybe the #1 trophy.

Lord of Vermillion wasn't a success, but yet it's fun and you can do, at least, the challenges in the turorial to get the Twintania minion.

Palace of the Dead. It's still at floor 50 and every reward is just glamour, but it will be challenging content with the 200 floors and the ranking table.

Gearing up all the crafters/gatherers to craft/gather your own stuff.

Triple triad. Did you get all the cards? Or atleast won all the NPCs?

What about Vistas? Did you get your Apkallu?

Housing; FC house, personal FC room, personal house or apartment. You can craft/obtain different furnishing by completing content such as extreme content, then use it in your housing place.

Farming minions and mounts, wich makes you complete different content. This one might be the most boring since usually it involves grind, like the Extreme mounts, but still it felt good back then when Kirin was implemented, and it will probably be worth to farm all the actual Extreme ones.

You have a lot of optional quests with their sidequests. You may like one more than others, but still every single one has a story and meaning in the lore (remember this is a MMORPG).

Raiding is fun, I invest just 2h a day, 5 days a week, wich is just 10 hours a week (while hardcore raiders raids 6h+ per day, maybe?) and I'll complete other content even if I finish the actual raid, because raiding is just an option on this game, not everything.

What did you complete on this game? Did you skip any of the mentioned content?

[Remedi]

Uhm...I don't think that's a good idea until they improve the alliance feature. Can you even make a full alliance before queuing up? Because otherwise you'd always have randoms and randoms don't mix overly well with Savage style difficulty.

You can make alliance before queing up for the 24 man raids atm, but imho ther aren't enough players to actually make a 24 man raid scene a reality

[Reynhart]

Uhm...I don't think that's a good idea until they improve the alliance feature. Can you even make a full alliance before queuing up? Because otherwise you'd always have randoms and randoms don't mix overly well with Savage style difficulty.

Yes, you can. Not in the most user friendly way, but you can.

Since Creator is easier than previous tier, we might see more clear from random party on the raid finder. I feel like they're somehow trying to vastly reduce the requirement on static parties to do content, with less emphasis on group mechanics, more forgivable deaths, etc...

[cgbspender]

Speaking of "tuning", fights were not the only thing that seemed to be overlooked. On day 1, gearing 2 HC statics meant :

1300-ish raziqsap , 150-ish arachne webs, 290-ish Borax, 130 scheelite, 80 dubbin, etc

Total seals needed for 2 statics : 1,379,000 seals. Capped at 50k for all players, that doesn't even half-cut it.

Even, for just one static alone, this is way too much. Did the devs do the maths at all ?

Nakade, former crafter in Solitude, world-competing FC.

[Pasquale]

You'll end up laughing about it because you're only focused on an specific content, but let's do it anyways;

All beast tribe max lv - got over 100 minions - about 45 mounts ( birds included) - won some LoV tournament - took part in tt tournament several times - around rank 40 1st the feast season + i have airship mount and red ads from frontline - completed main scenario and all the sidequests - farmed yokai mount - about to finish last relic step - did Pod several times 100 floors.. And other things i can't remember and the point is most of these took few days to be completed

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Speaking of "tuning", fights were not the only thing that seemed to be overlooked. On day 1, gearing 2 HC statics meant :

1300-ish raziqsap , 150-ish arachne webs, 290-ish Borax, 130 scheelite, 80 dubbin, etc

Total seals needed for 2 statics : 1,379,000 seals. Capped at 50k for all players, that doesn't even half-cut it.

Even, for just one static alone, this is way too much. Did the devs do the maths at all ?

Nakade, former crafter in Solitude, world-competing FC.

They likely made it that way to encourage group crafting and whatnot. The devs have openly expressed disliking omni-crafters, hence red scrips (an awful system) and later, specialists. Basically, they don't want one or two crafters being able to supply their entire FC. Furthermore, those requirements keep people running roulettes, fates and their challenge logs because you'll constantly need to stock up on seals. While a costly alternative, you can buy all these mats off the MB if you despise seal grinding.

Basically, you are asking it be made easier for only a few crafters to supply sixteen players with full ilvl 250 gear. Uh, why would that ever be a thing?